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He’s a fan favorite character, so the chances are never 0
How many times has Boros or the alien invasion at all have been mentioned after the Alien Conquerors arc?

He has been irrelevant for a while now and other than a cool fight and an assertion of how unbeatable Saitama is he did nothing plotwise for the series
 
How many times has Boros or the alien invasion at all have been mentioned after the Alien Conquerors arc?

He has been irrelevant for a while now and other than a cool fight and an assertion of how unbeatable Saitama is he did nothing plotwise for the series
I mean
Boris literally exists, so
 
Not sure what you meant, but either way it’s incredibly hard to believe that orochi just happened to be yet another person who’s just stronger than literally everyone else in the universe, the chances are just so low, and really the only one meant to be an exception is saitama.
How are the chances too low? It's fiction. For all we know, Orochi was the strongest person in the universe besides Saitama after Boros died.

There's no frame of reference here because A) the prophecy is shaky as ****, and B) he'd never gone to Earth before.

Also, Orochi would very much be an exception if the limiter stuff is correct.
Orochi was stated to have less potential than Garou, so it’s implied that orochi succeeded in weakening his limiter, but wasn’t able to break it the way Garou might have done after perfecting his fist. Although it’s kinda speculation if Garou did it at all, though I do believe he did. Regardless, him not having limitless potential means he didn’t break his limiter yet.
She said he possesses qualities to potentially get on an equal or higher level. Psykos literally said that Orochi was a success on multiple occasions. What you're saying doesn't disprove anything.
Sorry I was quoting anime Boros who says “living flesh”
Seemingly it’s just him saying that he’s beyond the limits of living beings, which is the limiter.
Assuming he even knows about it.

Also, Limiters limit growth. Different creatures have different plateaus, so it doesn't make sense in the context that he uses his latent energy as a booster.

Seemingly, it's just referring to the fact that the vast majority of organisms literally aren't designed to perform the activities he performs.
Alternatively, there’s Boros’ armor which he says is used to seal his limitless power, which also would line up with a broken limiter if he’s using a suit of armor instead.
He doesn't say that in the manga.

Also, limiters don't limit power, they limit the growth of power. It's not anime Boros alluding to a limiter, it's Boros being hyperbolic.
Iirc there’s a panel of Boros running at saitama that matches saitama running at the subterraneans
Not taking your word for that. Even if I did, minor similarities in art mean nothing.
Well no, the reason I brought it up was because it was the “narrator”, not Boros
Which changes literally nothing.
And of course he wasn’t damaged, but it does imply that nobody had hit saitama that hard up until that point, which is true of course based on saitama’s statement.
So that wouldn't include Orochi.
More importantly, it is just one of many ways that Boros is shown to be strong that orochi doesn’t have.
Given that he's shown to be unharmed by this level of impact, narratively they wouldn't repeat that kind of thing.
The csrc was a last ditch suicide move, so it’s questionable if it really factored into Boros being a strong guy rather than just having a strong final attack
The CSRC is literally the only thing in the fight that forced Saitama to use an even vaguely measurable fraction of his strength. It'd definitely be the most memorable part.
him saying he was almost a real fight before that and repeatedly calling him strong seems to indicate that Boros was already stronger than the rest without even using csrc
He said that once, told Boros to end the fight, and then called it almost a real fight because he was kicked to the moon before the CSRC exchange happened.
but still, you can’t deny that saitama definitely makes a complete joke of orochi. When flashy flash brings up monster king orochi, Saitama assumes that the orochi flashy is talking about is the monster king’s dad and says something like “maybe he’ll be strong”, which of course implies that the actual orochi was not strong in his eyes.
Sure. But it doesn't really prove anything.
 
I really find it funny that you think Orochi is stronger than Boros. Perhaps in your wet dreams.
My god, nobody actually believes Orochi is > Boros. We just can't prove that fact with the evidence that currently exists.
 
My god, nobody actually believes Orochi is > Boros.
End of story. We should just agree to put that shit on the profile regardless.
it's not like there's some higher power stopping staff from applying changes that they agree to be true. Boo hoo, there's no solid standalone evidence, simply put it on the profile if it is agreed with, because that's how the voting system works
it's not as if god himself is going to rise from the moon and smite you because you put a very obviously true thing on a profile in the vs battles fandom wiki. It's not misinformation when it's heavily implied.
anyways time to get to the arguing again...
 
End of story. We should just agree to put that shit on the profile regardless.
it's not like there's some higher power stopping staff from applying changes that they agree to be true. Boo hoo, there's no solid standalone evidence, simply put it on the profile if it is agreed with, because that's how the voting system works
For the last time, you're wrong about this so-called voting system. The boo hoo should be applied to people who endlessly complain that they can't get what they want, and have to rig the 'system' for that to happen.
it's not as if god himself is going to rise from the moon and smite you because you put a very obviously true thing on a profile in the vs battles fandom wiki. It's not misinformation when it's heavily implied.
It's also not as if God himself will smite the wiki if we don't. Yet you keep treating Boros not scaling to Orochi as an affront to God.
 
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For the last time, you're wrong about this so-called voting system. The boo hoo should be applied to people who endlessly complain that they can't get what they want, and have to rig the 'system' for that to happen.

It's also not as if God himself will smite the wiki if we don't. Yet you keep treating Boros not scaling to Orochi as an affront to God.
god is gonna smite you for this
 
I remember once a person wrote to me that a piece of the Earth's core in the feat with Orochi does not have a diameter of 300 kilometers. Say, since Orochi absorbed it, it means it wasn’t that big (like otherwise there would have been a massive crater hundreds of kilometers in diameter under it), and that well-known scan showed only a ball in general against the background of the Earth in Orochi’s feat. Kind of like when we saw Garou with Centipede in the background.

I don't believe this, but in fact, there is a chance it could be true. I hope we find out in the third season.

I don't want this to be true.
 
What he absorbed was energy.
This energy moved all the soil around. I think she was strong.

In the current calculations, we did not use the mass of the ball because we assume that it is not made from the core of the Earth and is actually energy? We consider only the kinetics of the deformation of the environment. Or not?

I haven't looked at the current settlements with Orochi.
 
We just calculated the surrounding layers of earth that the energy deformed, yes. Nothing to do with the mass of the material or energy he pulled.
 
I remember when Orochi didn't exist in the webcomic, they put him in the manga, and then decided to retcon his fight into the narrative equivalent of a wet blanket.
 
I remember DartSpiderr spent a few hours the day before the redraw and calculated Orochi's Country level and it was almost accepted.

It was funny when all his efforts were useless.
 
That happened to ZamasuChan, IIRC.

They calculated Garou's mountain push feat, and then it got redrawn.
 
How are the chances too low? It's fiction. For all we know, Orochi was the strongest person in the universe besides Saitama after Boros died.
It doesn’t really matter if it’s fiction, it’s just that the chances are already a cosmic exception since Boros has been around the universe and fought the strongest people on each planet and shitstomped them in armored form. You can’t deny that the chances of there being two beings who can beat Boros on the same planet are basically impossible odds.
Like, if saitama’s existence was already one in a million, orochi being stronger than Boros too would be like one in a trillion
Nobody can deny that there’s a very slim chance that orochi is stronger, and definitely a 0% chance that he was written to be stronger.
Given that he's shown to be unharmed by this level of impact, narratively they wouldn't repeat that kind of thing.
“This level of impact”
Your own wording there quite literally implies that Boros is > orochi
they certainly made a big deal out of Garou hitting saitama with a 5-C consecutive normal punches, or perhaps even saitama being temporarily out of commission after being hit with a high 4-C gamma ray burst
and yet, Orochi is quite clearly portrayed to be weak and is never given any kind of acknowledgement or hype-up scene like that against saitama. As you said in your own words, an attack on Boros’ level wouldn’t warrant the same reaction again; orochi’s attack didn’t warrant anything because Boros had already hit him harder
 
I’ll get to the rest later but I don’t have time
but you’re kinda right about a lot of the other stuff, but I still have a little more about that to say
 
It doesn’t really matter if it’s fiction, it’s just that the chances are already a cosmic exception since Boros has been around the universe and fought the strongest people on each planet and shitstomped them in armored form. You can’t deny that the chances of there being two beings who can beat Boros on the same planet are basically impossible odds.
Why is that impossible? There could be a dozen monsters stronger than Boros on Earth and the people wouldn't know because Saitama has already killed them.
 
Why is that impossible? There could be a dozen monsters stronger than Boros on Earth and the people wouldn't know because Saitama has already killed them.
Earth is considered a pretty weak planet, even by Blast, who was active well before Saitama had the chance to even fight tiger level threats, and doesn't even view Tatsumaki as that big of a deal.

Edited for clarity.
 
If Garou's copying relies on his understanding of flow could he become a good musician by copying and improving on famous people?
 
Why is that impossible? There could be a dozen monsters stronger than Boros on Earth and the people wouldn't know because Saitama has already killed them.
there could be, but the chances are ridiculously low, as was the entire point of what I said. I shouldn’t have to inform you of how much of a cosmic coincidence it would be for orochi and tatsumaki and (Sage Centipede and Ocean Water because iirc there’s an upcoming crt to scale them above orochi) to also be stronger than Boros
 
I’d also like to bring up one more time that Boros endured a couple normal punches while orochi was turned into mush by the very first punch
Honestly I still believe that orochi’s physicals shouldn’t even be high 6-A to begin with considering the fact that he determined that someone who could beat rover and centipede required his full power from the very beginning.

But either way, I feel like we should view saitama saying the Gaia cannon was “splashing water around” and indirectly calling orochi not strong should be just as valid as Geryuganshoop being “nothing but a bad joke” scaling is.
 
I feel like we should view saitama saying the Gaia cannon was “splashing water around” and indirectly calling orochi not strong should be just as valid as Geryuganshoop being “nothing but a bad joke” scaling is.
We could, for statements made after Saitama fought Orochi, not for statements before that.
 
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