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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Yeah it would. Unless he did it via some kind of gadget or amp, it'd definitely scale to AP.

You're literally just making unprovable statements and expecting me to prove them, so no. You haven't got any evidence yourself that he did this with some kind of external mechanism.

Here's the answer, as given in the chapter; he pulled it. I don't really need to explain it because something like that is already an AP feat, and the one who actually needs to debunk it being AP is you.
 
ByAsura said:
You're basically asking what if Genos had no feats above 20 tons?
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No, 100 kilo.

And no, I believe that the current Genos is quite possibly at the level of 700 kilotons physically.

To be honest, the feat of Psykorochy at 1.2 megatons is a wank. I am familiar with DarthSpiderr (In VK), and he admitted that he chose the most advantageous position of the crack during the calculation, so that it was as small as possible for the explosion itself. And if he had not been banned, he would have recalculated this feat.

I'll probably do it myself. This would not greatly reduce the result, but given that it is only a little over 1 megaton, the result will be at the level of 700 kilotons, probably.
 
Cyber_VERGIL said:
No, 100 kilo.
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I know what you said, but feats less than 20 tons would have to be a given for your hypothetical to remotely work.
Cyber_VERGIL said:
And no, I believe that the current Genos is quite possibly at the level of 700 kilotons physically.
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I didn't say you didn't believe that. It was purely hypothetical.
Cyber_VERGIL said:
To be honest, the feat of Psykorochy at 1.2 megatons is a wank. I am familiar with DarthSpiderr (In VK), and he admitted that he chose the most advantageous position of the crack during the calculation, so that it was as small as possible for the explosion itself. And if he had not been banned, he would have recalculated this feat.

I'll probably do it myself. This would not greatly reduce the result, but given that it is only a little over 1 megaton, the result will be at the level of 700 kilotons, probably.
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Ok, then.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
I am 99.9999% sure creating a magnetic field type thing wouldn’t scale to your physicals in any way without additional evidence.
But if he pulled it in a way that scaled to his AP, then I’d suggest you say what way that was exactly, because so far I feel like we just did a “did he touch it?” “No” “did he attract it?” “No he touched it” “so he touched it” “no”
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On the other hand, striking and dura are different discussions that I personally don't have the patience for rn.
 
ByAsura said:
I know what you said, but feats less than 20 tons would have to be a given for your hypothetical to remotely work.
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Hmm... That would be weird, considering Genos has the most undeniable city block-level feats when he doesn't even get scratched like he did with Sonic. 20 tons of TNT would make no sense.
ByAsura said:
I didn't say you didn't believe that. It was purely hypothetical.
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sorry
 
Exactly my point. The statement wouldn't surpass those consistent feats, unless all the feats themselves weren't 20 tons or above.
 
ByAsura said:
Given that half of the statements about the association are absolute hyperbole bullshit, I'd say the exact opposite is true when it comes to authorial intent.
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I mean, Boros did take saitama’s regular punches, saitama did hype up his power while actively shit on Orochi, and Orochi did get Gaia cannon obliterated by a joke attack and annihilated by a very normal punch. The author intent is all too obvious, and I think the vast majority would agree with that.
 
ByAsura said:
Yeah it would. Unless he did it via some kind of gadget or amp, it'd definitely scale to AP.

You're literally just making unprovable statements and expecting me to prove them, so no. You haven't got any evidence yourself that he did this with some kind of external mechanism.

Here's the answer, as given in the chapter; he pulled it. I don't really need to explain it because something like that is already an AP feat, and the one who actually needs to debunk it being AP is you.
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By the way can someone else confirm if making a magnetic field would scale to physicals? I mean, it’s very inherently not a physical feat to begin with unless it is suggested by outside evidence that it scales.
 
ByAsura said:
Exactly my point. The statement wouldn't surpass those consistent feats, unless all the feats themselves weren't 20 tons or above.
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There is a theory that One-Punch Man's art style is exaggerating, so the size and power indications for various characters are much smaller than what is shown.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
I mean, Boros did take saitama’s regular punches, saitama did hype up his power while actively shit on Orochi, and Orochi did get Gaia cannon obliterated by a joke attack and annihilated by a very normal punch. The author intent is all too obvious, and I think the vast majority would agree with that.
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If you're talking about Orochi specifically and not the databook, I agree. However, something almost everyone agrees on =/= enough to put on the profile.
ZillertheBucko said:
By the way can someone else confirm if making a magnetic field would scale to physicals? I mean, it’s very inherently not a physical feat to begin with unless it is suggested by outside evidence that it scales.
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As I said above, not necessarily physicals like striking and dura, but it is AP.
Cyber_VERGIL said:
There is a theory that One-Punch Man's art style is exaggerating, so the size and power indications for various characters are much smaller than what is shown.
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That is a theory this wiki will very happily ignore unless it suits our narrative.
 
ByAsura said:
If you're talking about Orochi specifically and not the databook, I agree. However, something almost everyone agrees on =/= enough to put on the profile.
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Actually that’s technically exactly how it works
we do decide everything by vote, so there’s nothing stopping us from saying he’s possibly > Gaia cannon AP
 
No we don't, actually.

Some people put votes on the OP of CRTs (which doesn't really affect the outcome) and have some very specific threads that are vote-based, but it typically only applies to stuff like staff and versus threads. But even they can be removed if someone gives evidence.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
By the way can someone else confirm if making a magnetic field would scale to physicals? I mean, it’s very inherently not a physical feat to begin with unless it is suggested by outside evidence that it scales.
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Has he ever shown the ability to do such? Orochi, while supernatural in nature, has never shown supernatural capabilities. Outside of his fire breath he’s a brawler and has only shown physical abilities. No esper or magical bs, just a fighter. Orochi shoves his tail into the Earth and claims to be “pulling” the energy. It’s clear that he’s physically pulling this energy.
 
ByAsura said:
No we don't, actually.

Some people put votes on the OP of CRTs (which doesn't really affect the outcome) and have some very specific threads that are vote-based, but it typically only applies to stuff like staff and versus threads. But even they can be removed if someone gives evidence.
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I mean yeah, staff vote is still vote
honestly I feel like if the staff members really find the narrative argument convincing, there’s nothing stopping them from agreeing on putting it on the profile. Doesn’t really matter as long as they find it convincing.
TimmyTurnero said:
Has he ever shown the ability to do such? Orochi, while supernatural in nature, has never shown supernatural capabilities. Outside of his fire breath he’s a brawler and has only shown physical abilities. No esper or magical bs, just a fighter. Orochi shoves his tail into the Earth and claims to be “pulling” the energy. It’s clear that he’s physically pulling this energy.
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Well ignoring the fact that physically pulling literally just a ball of pure energy is extremely supernatural in itself, Orochi has not shown nearly the level of range that he can strech himself to the point of touching the core, nor does the panel show anything along the lines of orochi’s tail touching the core to pull stuff out of it.
It should be removed from striking and durability, and limited to Gaia cannon AP
 
the fact that we use the scaling of Geryuganshoop being considered a bad joke already makes arguments like Boros being stronger than orochi more credible
 
By the way, sage centipede also is going to scale above gaia cannon soon iirc
if evidence of Boros being stronger then sage centipede or ocean water, then that also would be rather significant
Though I doubt it exists, since the “threat of this scale” thing only applied to natural water’s small form and not the ocean form necessarily, and sage centipede vs Boros is not really a discussion that I think has really been had either
but for some reason I highly doubt that it was intended for ocean water or sage centipede to be stronger than Boros
 
Firstly, this doesn't fall under the lines of any sort of prophecy. So absolutely not.

Secondly, what do you mean all prophecies?

There's an unreliable one from the Alien Seer, something from Shibabawa that hasn't happened yet and came to fruition early in an alternate timeline, and the mural on Orochi's lair that wasn't even related to Saitama.
 
ByAsura said:
Firstly, this doesn't fall under the lines of any sort of prophecy. So absolutely not.
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The statement is made either based off of Boros' prophecy, or off of a third person statement, which would ignore Saitama becuse we already know he's the strongest.
ByAsura said:
There's an unreliable one from the Alien Seer
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I made a mistake saying all lol. The alien one isn't unreliable, they told Boros he would get a good fight to make him go all out, not a fair one. It was his interpretation that they meant a fair fight.
 
Cryo123 said:
The statement is made either based off of Boros' prophecy, or off of a third person statement,
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It's a third party statement. Hence the point.
Cryo123 said:
which would ignore Saitama becuse we already know he's the strongest.
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The statement being inaccurate because of Saitama is the subject in the first place, so twisting it around to be the evidence is just circular reasoning.
Cryo123 said:
I made a mistake saying all lol. The alien one isn't unreliable, they told Boros he would get a good fight to make him go all out, not a fair one. It was his interpretation that they meant a fair fight.
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Boros didn't quote the alien in full and claims, based on the same source, that it's untrue. So I'm more inclined to believe him.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
the fact that we use the scaling of Geryuganshoop being considered a bad joke already makes arguments like Boros being stronger than orochi more credible
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Not really. Flash came after Geryuganshoop, so it’s a lot more reasonable to scale him (even though I think that scaling isn’t super solid either) than it is to scale Boros to Orochi because of statements made before Orochi even existed in the story.

Especially when you consider that we accept Saitama growing strong enough to completely outshine his strength from the day before, so what Saitama considers to be “strong” in the Alien Conqueror Arc can’t be compared to what he considers strong in the Monster Association Arc. Oh yeah, and Saitama treated Awakened Garou, a Tier 5/Tier 4 character, as more of a nuisance than anything, so the reasoning of “Boros scales because he called him strong“ is still faulty.
 
Cyber_VERGIL said:
Are you sure there are no more small city level achievements that they can scale to?
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This was the only Low 7-B feat. Unless someone finds out another feat that they could scale to, the characters would just become High 7-C+ scaling to Genos' explosion
now i'm wondering if i recalced EC's ke again i could get anything useful
 
Guys, if you could make your own profiles in One Punch Man, without any limiting scaling (meaning you can scale a character at least 100 times more than another if you see fit), then what level would your awakened Bang be?
 
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