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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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CosmicWreck
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In the audiobook series there's an alternate universe where Saitama and co are middle school/high school children. It was amusingly enough stated to be a parallel universe.
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but uh, 4d is higher dimensional, which is tier 2 at best so....
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CosmicWreck
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God can still be Low 1-C.
Because of Garou and Blast we know Hyperspace exists.
Depending on how One and Murata build on this concept, higher dimensions can reasonably said to be introduced eventually.
For example, space would be 3 dimensions, hyper space (similar nature to the gates, but significantly bigger) the fourth and time, the fifth dimension. Or at least that would be the ideal.
Personally, instead of hypotheticals like these I'm kind of more interested in how many people here would even be interested in Saitama reaching higher dimensional levels of power at all.
Most people I've seen seem to take the tiers beyond 2-A as confusing and "bullshit".
Because of Garou and Blast we know Hyperspace exists.
Depending on how One and Murata build on this concept, higher dimensions can reasonably said to be introduced eventually.
For example, space would be 3 dimensions, hyper space (similar nature to the gates, but significantly bigger) the fourth and time, the fifth dimension. Or at least that would be the ideal.
Personally, instead of hypotheticals like these I'm kind of more interested in how many people here would even be interested in Saitama reaching higher dimensional levels of power at all.
Most people I've seen seem to take the tiers beyond 2-A as confusing and "bullshit".
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only thing I really consider bullshit is that time is seen as a dimension
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we wait
Recon1511
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Maybe I didn't explain myself correctly, I think that his current AP (if he retains it after merging with past Saitama that is) should be listed as 4-A likely far higher as he clearly grew far beyond his previous feats after fighting Garou and then higher with accelerated development.
English is my second language so maybe it's not worded in the best way but Imo it should be made clear in the profile that Saitama is high above his listed AP.
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Hasn't Murata seen God fanon Manga, where there were 11+ higher dimensions? If God battle is at that scale or higher, we may have a stronk God
CosmicWreck
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Yeah. I've seen other people with this opinion too.
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It works out in physics, so there is no reason why it wouldn't work for feats especially if a character can affect the future and/or the past with their power in a way that would be relevant for Attack Potency.
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I’ve never actually seen any justification for it
even worse is when people think that time itself replaces the 4th dimension when time can easily exist in any dimension
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Very profound.
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Is that so? It should be possible to look up why exactly time is used as a 4th dimension but if I recall correctly the origin of that view has something to do with relativity and how time can be viewed as an additional axis to the three spatial dimensions we can perceive.
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Yes, it's called a temporal dimension. While the others are spatial. It's a way to measure change.
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I'm already aware of that.
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Cool.
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the biggest issue is that I can't find any kind of definition of dimension that even remotely acknowledges time
but even if it was a "temporal dimension" it wouldn't even be comparable to an actual one, since dimensions include things like length, width, and height, while time can't really go like, sideways? From what I can tell the only reason people call it a dimension is because "you need time in order to move" but time just goes in one direction unlike any other dimension.
I'd prefer is someone actually had an explanation that made sense but none seem to exist
but even if it was a "temporal dimension" it wouldn't even be comparable to an actual one, since dimensions include things like length, width, and height, while time can't really go like, sideways? From what I can tell the only reason people call it a dimension is because "you need time in order to move" but time just goes in one direction unlike any other dimension.
I'd prefer is someone actually had an explanation that made sense but none seem to exist
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4th dimension isn't really for human perception. We can only perceive 3 dimensions.
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No single dimension has length, width and height on its own as far as I'm aware since all three of these things can only exist in three dimensions together. Time moving in only one way actually has a Wikipedia article called the arrow of time.
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well yeah that's what I meant, I was just listing them all not using them all at once
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As far as I'm aware using time as a dimension works well with formulas and nobody really has an explanation why time as a dimension is different from other dimensions in the sense that it only ever moves into one direction as far as we can tell.
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on top of the fact that time can exist in a 2d or 1d space, I think it's safe to say that time is at the very least a different concept entirely from the the 4th dimension in particular
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Well, it would be different from a 4th spatial dimension though time is still an integral part of the space-time continuum.
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well sure, space time continuum and stuff is nice but that doesn't mean that time is related to AP at all, since destroying stuff on a 4d(spatial) level is the equivalent of being infinite on a 3d as each dimension is infinitely larger than the previous, but instead we use time for some reason which is
absolutely weird to me
absolutely weird to me
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Well, Immeasurable characters are certainly capable of using time like an axis of movement and destroying an infinite time-space continuum does seem like something that should be superior to simply destroying the infinite amount of things that may or may not exist within it to me.
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except destroying something in the past would also destroy it in the future by default, seems unquantifiable at best when considering time manipulation characters
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Why would that be relevant? There is no past or future if time itself is destroyed, so why would that something's future destroyed be relevant by comparison?
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well if time itself is destroyed then that'd be like destroying space
in the sense that it isn't something tangible that can be interacted with, so it'd be more like a complicated EE or spatial manipulation
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That sounds like a pretty complicated idea when you consider higher-dimensional objects in this context.
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Don’t worry I’ll let it slide
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Oh. Then I think the very first comment of mine you quoted was a misclick lmao, because I wasn't talking about that at all lmao.
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Yeah temporal dimensions aren't the same as spatial dimensions in every aspect. The "only goes one way" thing is what most people consider an example of that.
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Bruh, this thread got unfollowed, luckily I only had to read like 1.5 pages
my 2 cents and the god discussion pretty sure the fanmanga has god being at a higher dimension, so tier 2 minimum, and with recent events it’s seem that murata and ONE got some slight inspo from the fan manga.
my 2 cents and the god discussion pretty sure the fanmanga has god being at a higher dimension, so tier 2 minimum, and with recent events it’s seem that murata and ONE got some slight inspo from the fan manga.
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Hey, do you think God has conscience over time? Like, even if future was reversed, he still know about it?
I doubt it tbf, since, even after he killed future Garou by using wrong his powers, he still left present Garou alive, and didn't take his powers off (otherwise he'd have died like Homeless Emperor or Future Garou did).
Maybe his powers went out because he was defeated like what (most likely) happened with Psykos? Or maybe it was a PIS to let Garou alive for future arcs
I doubt it tbf, since, even after he killed future Garou by using wrong his powers, he still left present Garou alive, and didn't take his powers off (otherwise he'd have died like Homeless Emperor or Future Garou did).
Maybe his powers went out because he was defeated like what (most likely) happened with Psykos? Or maybe it was a PIS to let Garou alive for future arcs
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