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Also we threw Bomb being stronger than Bang out the window already
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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I mean, ignoring the new chapter for a second, Bang and Bomb would annihilate Bug God that's it's not even funny
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Garou also stated that Royal Ripper and Bug God combined are nothing compared to Bang, so that should say enough
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Well, as I said earlier, when Garou actually managed to land hits on Bomb, it only took two blows to take him out, and Garou didn't seem remotely injured or drained from the battle. Meanwhile there was no implications that Garou had used his reactive evolution, at least not to any relevant degree. It really doesn't come off as more than just Bomb being able to last a while due to skill.
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I mean, the S Class heroes he fought prior weren't even threat level dragon. With the exception of Bang and Bomb but we all know how that went
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Ah I see
Also it'd be pretty cool to see Bang unleash some insane technique to match Garou, or hopefully a new crazy feat
I'm predicting Fubuki to fight Psykos while Bang fights Garou, only for Garou to come ambush Fubuki after he defeats Bang. Hopefully we see his "I am that dreaded future" speech
Also. Where. Is. Metal Bat.
Also it'd be pretty cool to see Bang unleash some insane technique to match Garou, or hopefully a new crazy feat
I'm predicting Fubuki to fight Psykos while Bang fights Garou, only for Garou to come ambush Fubuki after he defeats Bang. Hopefully we see his "I am that dreaded future" speech
Also. Where. Is. Metal Bat.
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He has better acid resistance than a normal human but it's still not acid immunity or anything. So yeah we should note itm
We do treat fist catching as AP and if they struggle afterwards, also lifting strength.
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Yeah, Fubuki stated that Bomb is just as strong as Bang, not stronger. Murata was just being dumb again lol
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Well as a reminder Murata constantly and consistently said that his statements have no weight on canon. Just because Murata said something that was later proved to not be true doesn't mean he's dumb, he just has opinions that don't align with canon stuff. Which is rare in manga but more common in comics or film.
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I think this was changed in the manga with Garou not saying anything about them being on par with S-Class heroes, though it really doesn't matter since it is common sense to presume that they are powerful Demon-level monsters and are on the level of S-Class heroes, albeit not top-ones.
Garou was brutalised by Bug God while holding back. He never knew Bug God had a transformation, which apparently amps strength and durability. Bang and Bomb don't have statements and regards that put him on par with Darkshine in strength. Feat-wise, it is vague to say he fully scales to Garou and if he doesn't, then it is iffy to say they are stronger than Darkshine (at least for now as it may retcon after Garou fights Bang). I'm not really convinced that they are superior to Darkshine in strength. I may change my mind and concede if it reallly is gonna be retconned.
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Bang is consistently shown to fight against threat level dragons, all of which should vastly superior to transformed bug God. Bang also scales to or below 18 Megatons while Bug God only scales above 1.22 Megatons. Not only that, but Bang didn't take much if not any damage from Melzalgald, who should be superior to transformed Bug God.
Y'all are hyping Bug God much further than he really is.
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If I didn't include anything, it's probably because it's not important at all. For example, Bomb just remarks that Garou cancelled his attack. Keep in mind that I'm a horrid translator.
Fubuki can't see Garou and Bomb (outright saying they're invisible), if that wasn't obvious enough. The rest is just him getting Garou somewhere else.
I think what Bomb says here is that the confrontation with Garou should be handed off to Bang, and that he can't really afford the fight, but is keeping Garou occupied. This translation in particular was very sketchy and stitched together, so don't put too much faith into it.
From what I can discern, Tatsumaki was still using a little TK for protection, but BS calls it weak.
Genos collected data from the Cadres while Tatsumaki was fighting them, which is how he dealt with BS effectively.
Edit: The version I was reading from was low quality, so I thought Genos was talking about Tatsumaki's fight with the Cadres. He's talking about when Tatsumaki blasted him.
The punch used to match Darkshine's Double Super Alloy Bazooka is a variant of the Forearm Caving Punch. So DS >>>>>> TTM & Pig God.
Bomb says that Garou is fusing techniques together into a self-style (I think he asks how many battles he's been in before this, implying Bomb recognises that he's incorporated more styles since their last bout), an obvious reference to the Monster Calamity God Slayer in the Webcomic. He's desperately awaiting Bang's arrival.
In the last panel, Bomb says Garou is incomparable to his previous states (bottom corner). It's obvious, but do keep in mind that Garou had a massive rage boost in their previous fight.
Fubuki can't see Garou and Bomb (outright saying they're invisible), if that wasn't obvious enough. The rest is just him getting Garou somewhere else.
I think what Bomb says here is that the confrontation with Garou should be handed off to Bang, and that he can't really afford the fight, but is keeping Garou occupied. This translation in particular was very sketchy and stitched together, so don't put too much faith into it.
From what I can discern, Tatsumaki was still using a little TK for protection, but BS calls it weak.
Genos collected data from the Cadres while Tatsumaki was fighting them, which is how he dealt with BS effectively.
Edit: The version I was reading from was low quality, so I thought Genos was talking about Tatsumaki's fight with the Cadres. He's talking about when Tatsumaki blasted him.
The punch used to match Darkshine's Double Super Alloy Bazooka is a variant of the Forearm Caving Punch. So DS >>>>>> TTM & Pig God.
Bomb says that Garou is fusing techniques together into a self-style (I think he asks how many battles he's been in before this, implying Bomb recognises that he's incorporated more styles since their last bout), an obvious reference to the Monster Calamity God Slayer in the Webcomic. He's desperately awaiting Bang's arrival.
In the last panel, Bomb says Garou is incomparable to his previous states (bottom corner). It's obvious, but do keep in mind that Garou had a massive rage boost in their previous fight.
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You can read the translated version of the chapter here. It was translated hours ago I guess.
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Hawt
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Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's a reference to the time he got rammed into a wall by carnage kabuto and was called modern art by Saitama. Cheeky reference
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It would scale her to above Gery's speed.
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Boros 3 generals < Orochi < Psyrochi < Tatsumaki
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Nope, theres no reason for it. Gery's speed isn't getting changed, so he is still relativistic, which would still keep the scaling chain.
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Them being able to destroy them with a small amount of brute force (no technique required, they have the raw AP), is weird. That they're stronger than demons is normal, that they're the physical peak of S-class + incredibly skilled destroys the whole idea of Atomic, Darkshine, Flashy and Bang being the best in their individual fields. I think the scaling will sort out in the end though, we'll just have to wait.
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I recall mods being against it in the speed downgrade
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Say no more, nowhere else is "new chapter syndrome" stronger
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I am 99.99% sure that Saitama has reisistance to acid
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His glove would prob be melted, but VFU couldn't even ******* dream of hurting Saitama. Idk if we can go as far as saying he has a default resistance to every ability in the series even if he hasn't resisted it, but still.
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I personally think it's a pretty safe assumption in universe but yeah we can't do that on the site here
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Nah, I don't think even in-universe ONE intends for Saitama to be literally unbeatable. ONE has said himself that the point of Saitama is that, unlike most Shonen MC's who need to grow throughout the story, Saitama's power is already what he should have at the end of the series. If you put current Goku back in the OG Dragon Ball or current Naruto back in the OG Naruto, they'd also one shot anything there. Saitama has endgame power at the start of the series. That's how he parodies Shonen anime, not just "haha he big funny he one shot people". As for the whole gag thing...honestly at best, I could only see it being a thing where ONE might have originally intended for Saitama to be a practically omnipotent gag character, but as the story progresses, we see many times that Saitama is actually a serious character with his own character arc. Saitama's character arc is literally about his own pseudo-apathy and depression caused by his overwhelming strength, that's not what you'd see in a gag character.
Take the Boros fight for instance. Numerous times in the battle, Saitama is surprised and even blatantly impressed by Boros, not only calling him strong on multiple occasions to Boros, but also referring to him as a strong opponent afterwards. When he gets kicked to the moon in the manga version, he even says that it's almost like a real fight. We know that Boros is a parallel to Saitama. Someone who became so strong in search of the thrill of combat that he became too strong. So much so that no one was a worthy opponent for him. We even have implications that Meteoric Burst temporarily breaks Boros' limiter, and in the OPM Compus (which I don't think is inaccurate so much as it has a single big mistranslation), it's even said that MB Boros "sort of clobbered" Saitama. And lastly, when Saitama walks away from Boros with his eyes shaded, his head downwards, and Boros weakly calling out his name with his dying breath...like, who thinks that was supposed to be funny? The reason why Saitama looks like that is because, unlike Boros who achieved his dream of a challenging fight against a powerful foe, Saitama still was unable to really try, he was still not challenged. He could've ended the fight whenever he wanted to and didn't take seemingly any actual damage (unless you trust the cover that states he took damage from one of Boros' attacks). Boros was in Saitama's general league, but he still wasn't close to Saitama's level. And naturally, the fact that Saitama encountered someone this strong, someone who had gone through the same boredom as him, but still couldn't be provided an actual challenge, only furthered Saitama's depression, as it likely seemed then and there that he would truly never find a rival of his own.
We see more of this in the Hero Hunter arc of course, with Saitama's talk to King. Saitama believes he has reached the pinnacle. There is nothing left for him anymore, there is no more room for him to grow. The conversation is ended off on a comedic note and hasn't been addressed very much since then, but Saitama's current character arc is very real, and will be explored more in the future.
Take the Boros fight for instance. Numerous times in the battle, Saitama is surprised and even blatantly impressed by Boros, not only calling him strong on multiple occasions to Boros, but also referring to him as a strong opponent afterwards. When he gets kicked to the moon in the manga version, he even says that it's almost like a real fight. We know that Boros is a parallel to Saitama. Someone who became so strong in search of the thrill of combat that he became too strong. So much so that no one was a worthy opponent for him. We even have implications that Meteoric Burst temporarily breaks Boros' limiter, and in the OPM Compus (which I don't think is inaccurate so much as it has a single big mistranslation), it's even said that MB Boros "sort of clobbered" Saitama. And lastly, when Saitama walks away from Boros with his eyes shaded, his head downwards, and Boros weakly calling out his name with his dying breath...like, who thinks that was supposed to be funny? The reason why Saitama looks like that is because, unlike Boros who achieved his dream of a challenging fight against a powerful foe, Saitama still was unable to really try, he was still not challenged. He could've ended the fight whenever he wanted to and didn't take seemingly any actual damage (unless you trust the cover that states he took damage from one of Boros' attacks). Boros was in Saitama's general league, but he still wasn't close to Saitama's level. And naturally, the fact that Saitama encountered someone this strong, someone who had gone through the same boredom as him, but still couldn't be provided an actual challenge, only furthered Saitama's depression, as it likely seemed then and there that he would truly never find a rival of his own.
We see more of this in the Hero Hunter arc of course, with Saitama's talk to King. Saitama believes he has reached the pinnacle. There is nothing left for him anymore, there is no more room for him to grow. The conversation is ended off on a comedic note and hasn't been addressed very much since then, but Saitama's current character arc is very real, and will be explored more in the future.
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I having a sneaking suspicion that God will be the only legitimate challenge that Saitama faces. Like, if Boros was “almost a real fight,” God would be a real fight.
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Does anyone here read/watch One Piece? I've been catching up on it and that got me thinking. How would the MA fair if transported to the world of One Piece? Let's say they got transported along with their entire base and all its members during the 2 year time skip with the goal of wiping out humanity and recruiting new members. How much of an impact would they have? Would any of them get devil fruits and what devil fruits would best suit them? Would any of them get haki? Who do u think would join them? What would the bounties of some of the members like the Executives and Orochi be? I'm curious to see what you guys think.
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Relativistic for attack speed is staying, but relativistic for reaction and combat speed is being removed. So tatsumaki will lose possibly relativistic
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