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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Well, I did a quick lowball of Death Shower. Death Gatling's gun looks rather like a GAU-12 Avenger minigun, which has a muzzle energy of 99,500 joules per bullet. The GAU-12 has a max fire rate of 4,200 rounds per minute and using the Anime timeframe, Gatling was firing for 9 seconds for a total of 630 bullets using max fire rate.

That of course is a lowball, Death Gatling's gatling looks much stronger than the GAU-12 equalizer
 
Also, we could use Death Gatling's fire velocity of 1,040 m/s per bullet to find Garou's speed if we can find the number of bullets
 
And lastly... could we scale Genos's beam speed to Death Gatling's 1040 m/s muzzle velocity to find EC's speed? Assuming Genos's beams are more than 3X slower (just speed of sound) than Death Gatling's bullets doesn't make sense to me, if anything they should be much faster than each individual bullet since Garou evaded Death Gatling's bullets with ease (before he had to defend Tareo and block thousands of them) but struggled at times to avoid Genos's blasts.
 
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A reddit thread came up about Awakened Garou vs SCP 682, I posted saying SCP solos OPM and a guy responds "except for Saitama", I tell them Saitama get's adapted to and he argues Saitama has infinite strength, I tell him SCP adapts to a level of infinity vastly above Saitama's and then they respond, "but saitama's infinite reaches that because alpha nol however many times has the same value as infinity" (idk how to even interpret this).

Ik it's reddit but how can you genuinely think like this? What has Saitama done that makes people think he's suddenly even at a 3-D level of infinity?
 
EnderLord8 said:
I saw a theory, which said that the cube of God attracts monsters ... Have you seen this theory?
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There was a cube buried the under the city Z, the monsters were attracted to it and formed the monster association.

When I saw this theory, I found it very curious, since it would explain why so many monsters go to Q city and that the Watchdog Man is guarding the cube or something...
 
Ourosboros said:
IDK if anyone still cares about EC's KE calc... but what if we scaled Genos's beam speed to JDA?
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I'm neutral on EC KE for now. It's worth a shot but it might end up too low or too inflated

I'm not sure about the second one tbh
 
Seriously though I wouldn't consider that inflated, we'd have a definitively 6-C Geryuganshoop if Murata was considered a bit more credible, Gouketsu has a 6-C end for his cloud split, Pluton's feat is 6-C, Homeless Emperor has 6-C calcs and dragons are obviously super categorically underrated right now. There's such a huge gap between Orochi and most of the cadres that just doesn't seem right narratively. Orochi is a cut above the cadres, but he's not like several trillion times stronger than all of them or whatever the multiplier is
 
The thing is, the Gouketsu end is still only 7-A. Pluton is non canon. And no one scales to Geryu and HE other than Boros and Orochi.

EC scales to a good chunk of characters, and said characters who scale to EC consistently perform mid tier 7 feats.
 
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Also I noticed that Bang and Bomb needed to do a special technique attack just to break his shell, which implies that on their own they might not fully scale
 
And the thing about Orochi is that isn't kind of the point for him to be that high? Besides Boros, the narrative places him at the absolute top of the scaling chain, Murata places him at above dragon, and is even listed as Psykos' greatest weapon. Orochi is the king for a reason
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
And the thing about Orochi is that isn't kind of the point for him to be that high? Besides Boros, the narrative places him at the absolute top of the scaling chain, Murata places him at above dragon, and is even listed as Psykos' greatest weapon. Orochi is the king for a reason
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No, I don't think so. If you asked ONE how much stronger Orochi was than the cadres and actually got him to quantify it, I doubt he would give numbers anywhere near as large as 100,000 times difference. I think Homeless and Black Sperm would be able to take Orochi on. After all, when Orochi was dead it wasn't too much of a deal for Psykos since he had those two around. Granted she may have not known exactly how strong Orochi was at that point, but I don't think the difference is exponential even in that case.
 
True, but then again, there's also the fact that a vastajprity of the monsters are only obedient because of power. Orochi is the enforcer and is the one keeping the monsters in check. HE likely follows Orochi because Orochi is stronger than him, just like Gouketsu obeys Orochi. Black sperm, maybe, but hasn't shown much to show that he can take on Orochi.
 
I think the best bet for finding EC's speed would be to compare it to Death Gatling's minigun. I can't think of any other way to find his speed that wouldn't be considered calc staking.
 
Garou managed to react and block shots from the gun. Garou had trouble dodging Genos's attacks and EC outsped one of Genos's attacks. So we could find the speed of EC if we compare the beams speed to the minigun and base the speed of the gun off irl miniguns.
 
I'm not very good at calcing so I tried just pluging in the accepted values for EC for both KE and GPE and both were well below city level. I wonder if it would be possible to calc the ap for making something as big as EC stop suddenly with a punch like what Bang and Bomb did.
 
A quick survey shows that an M134 minigun has a bullet exit speed of 850m / s or supersonic, almost supersonic +
 
I tried that value with a KE calculator and only got 300 kilotons. EC would have to be going 3-5 times faster in order to get any kind of upgrades at least based of what I'm using.
 
Dual_Binoculars said:
I'm not very good at calcing so I tried just pluging in the accepted values for EC for both KE and GPE and both were well below city level. I wonder if it would be possible to calc the ap for making something as big as EC stop suddenly with a punch like what Bang and Bomb did.
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Likely no, KING called EC with GPE at 7-A, I'm waiting for them to post the full calc
 
I've already run some math through. EC would have small city AP scaling Genos's cannons to an GAU-12 Equalizer.

But basically: Garou was able to deflect several hundred, maybe thousands of bullets from death Gatling. He struggled to avoid individual blasts by Genos. Genos's blasts are obviously far faster than Death Gatling's guns and if we choose not to quantify that directly, then we can at least say they are as fast as individual minigun bullets (1040 m/s for HEI GAU-12 30 mm) and find EC's speed to be 1386 m/s, then we multiply that by a more realistic length of 2000 meters and boom, baseline 7-B.
 
Ourosboros said:
I've already run some math through. EC would have small city AP scaling Genos's cannons to an GAU-12 Equalizer.

But basically: Garou was able to deflect several hundred, maybe thousands of bullets from death Gatling. He struggled to avoid individual blasts by Genos. Genos's blasts are obviously far faster than Death Gatling's guns and if we choose not to quantify that directly, then we can at least say they are as fast as individual minigun bullets (1040 m/s for HEI GAU-12 30 mm) and find EC's speed to be 1386 m/s, then we multiply that by a more realistic length of 2000 meters and boom, baseline 7-B.
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That's for his pre molt length right? His Post Molt length was calced at over 4000 meters what would that yield?
 
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