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For one last time, I would like to advertise the

LOW-TIER OPM CRT

Because almost everyone seems to agree with the changes (except for a small sticking point on Child Emperor's scaling), but I would like to double-check for any possible objections, qualifications or alternative suggestions before I ask for CGM input and start applying the changes.
 
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If you haven't given input and care about the tiering of anyone between baseline c-class and baseline demon please stop by and check it out now
 
Sub-relativistic if you highball it, MHS+ if you lowball it. Using the formula Atomic used against Haragiri where he moved 40.2 meters in the time it took Haragiri to move 0.01 meters, we get a mutliplier of 4020 for practically motionless. Applying that multiplier to mach 5-10 gets sub-rel results, otherwise it would be MHS+ I would guess
 
For one last time, I would like to advertise the

LOW-TIER OPM CRT

Because almost everyone seems to agree with the changes (except for a small sticking point on Child Emperor's scaling), but I would like to double-check for any possible objections, qualifications or alternative suggestions before I ask for CGM input and start applying the changes.
When I read this in my mind, I see tons of reverb when it gets to the "LOW-TIER OPM CRT" part, like a booming narrator voice.
 
When I read this in my mind, I see tons of reverb when it gets to the "LOW-TIER OPM CRT" part, like a booming narrator voice.
That's funny, I just wanted to make it visible but now that you say that I feel like I should record myself saying that
 
Well, I did a quick lowball of Death Shower. Death Gatling's gun looks rather like a GAU-12 Avenger minigun, which has a muzzle energy of 99,500 joules per bullet. The GAU-12 has a max fire rate of 4,200 rounds per minute and using the Anime timeframe, Gatling was firing for 9 seconds for a total of 630 bullets using max fire rate.

That of course is a lowball, Death Gatling's gatling looks much stronger than the GAU-12 equalizer
 
Also, we could use Death Gatling's fire velocity of 1,040 m/s per bullet to find Garou's speed if we can find the number of bullets
 
And lastly... could we scale Genos's beam speed to Death Gatling's 1040 m/s muzzle velocity to find EC's speed? Assuming Genos's beams are more than 3X slower (just speed of sound) than Death Gatling's bullets doesn't make sense to me, if anything they should be much faster than each individual bullet since Garou evaded Death Gatling's bullets with ease (before he had to defend Tareo and block thousands of them) but struggled at times to avoid Genos's blasts.
 
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A reddit thread came up about Awakened Garou vs SCP 682, I posted saying SCP solos OPM and a guy responds "except for Saitama", I tell them Saitama get's adapted to and he argues Saitama has infinite strength, I tell him SCP adapts to a level of infinity vastly above Saitama's and then they respond, "but saitama's infinite reaches that because alpha nol however many times has the same value as infinity" (idk how to even interpret this).

Ik it's reddit but how can you genuinely think like this? What has Saitama done that makes people think he's suddenly even at a 3-D level of infinity?
 
I saw a theory, which said that the cube of God attracts monsters ... Have you seen this theory?
There was a cube buried the under the city Z, the monsters were attracted to it and formed the monster association.

When I saw this theory, I found it very curious, since it would explain why so many monsters go to Q city and that the Watchdog Man is guarding the cube or something...
 
IDK if anyone still cares about EC's KE calc... but what if we scaled Genos's beam speed to JDA?
I'm neutral on EC KE for now. It's worth a shot but it might end up too low or too inflated

I'm not sure about the second one tbh
 
Seriously though I wouldn't consider that inflated, we'd have a definitively 6-C Geryuganshoop if Murata was considered a bit more credible, Gouketsu has a 6-C end for his cloud split, Pluton's feat is 6-C, Homeless Emperor has 6-C calcs and dragons are obviously super categorically underrated right now. There's such a huge gap between Orochi and most of the cadres that just doesn't seem right narratively. Orochi is a cut above the cadres, but he's not like several trillion times stronger than all of them or whatever the multiplier is
 
The thing is, the Gouketsu end is still only 7-A. Pluton is non canon. And no one scales to Geryu and HE other than Boros and Orochi.

EC scales to a good chunk of characters, and said characters who scale to EC consistently perform mid tier 7 feats.
 
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Also I noticed that Bang and Bomb needed to do a special technique attack just to break his shell, which implies that on their own they might not fully scale
 
And the thing about Orochi is that isn't kind of the point for him to be that high? Besides Boros, the narrative places him at the absolute top of the scaling chain, Murata places him at above dragon, and is even listed as Psykos' greatest weapon. Orochi is the king for a reason
 
And the thing about Orochi is that isn't kind of the point for him to be that high? Besides Boros, the narrative places him at the absolute top of the scaling chain, Murata places him at above dragon, and is even listed as Psykos' greatest weapon. Orochi is the king for a reason
No, I don't think so. If you asked ONE how much stronger Orochi was than the cadres and actually got him to quantify it, I doubt he would give numbers anywhere near as large as 100,000 times difference. I think Homeless and Black Sperm would be able to take Orochi on. After all, when Orochi was dead it wasn't too much of a deal for Psykos since he had those two around. Granted she may have not known exactly how strong Orochi was at that point, but I don't think the difference is exponential even in that case.
 
True, but then again, there's also the fact that a vastajprity of the monsters are only obedient because of power. Orochi is the enforcer and is the one keeping the monsters in check. HE likely follows Orochi because Orochi is stronger than him, just like Gouketsu obeys Orochi. Black sperm, maybe, but hasn't shown much to show that he can take on Orochi.
 
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