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Orochi being FTL due to Blitzting AC’s senses WAS deemed an outlier, but the situation is different now that we have actual lightspeed feats.
Boros fought someone he watched (from a distance) tank a barrage of stones and then throw one back. Never once did he see Saitama casually outspeed the stones or even dodge one; after a bunch of smoke, he just had a stone in his hand and threw it back faster than Gery could react (who‘s statement only applies to his throwing speed, not his stats).Boros fought someone that was casually outclassing Geryu in terms of speed, and was very confident about fighting him right after he saw Saitama do that. It's not at all arbitrary and selective in Boros' favour.
But the argument isn’t about Orochi blitzting AC’s movement speed, but the fact he could stab AC before AC’s senses could kick in and even warn him of danger, which was stated to be capable of sensing even lightspeed attacks before they happened.I don't think it was solely dismissed just for being an outlier. Awakened Cockroach's mobility being hampered by his lack of legs didn't help him either.
It is not really a calculationCan I see the calculation for Orochi's FTL?
Orochi was holding back.later Half-Monster Garou,
When?MK robot reacted and blocked it
Orochi was holding back, but you could easily say the same for AC.Orochi was holding back.
He may have held back massively in power, but probably not speed.Orochi was holding back.
When?
It is just me but another translation I read implies the robot raised its arms to block.I don't think MK reacted.
Orochi was holding back, but you could easily say the same for AC.
Orochi didn't even move a muscle against AC, while Garou actually blocked an attack and forced him to partially transform.
This translation is actually quite badass if you think about it. Him disabling the self-destruct mechanism instead of plain outspeeding it implies he's precise enough with his horn to disable a delicate mechanism on a super advanced drone while skillfully taking it apart.It is just me but another translation I read implies the robot raised its arms to block.
It could be possible that would've led to Platinum Sperm.I wonder how powerful webcomic GS would be if Tatsumaki didn’t kill Multi-Cell Sperm and the 10,000 kamikazee.
How does Boros KNOW Saitama reacted? All he saw was Saitama standing stock still and tanking the rocks. The exact same thing ya’ll use to say Orochi doesn’t scale.According to the Murata quote, Saitama sees this move as a nothing, just a bad joke and casually threw a stone faster.
Boros isn't telepathic, but he's capable of noticing something that moves fast, which did include Saitama when he reacted to the rocks at FTL speeds.
Also, Boros is FTL due to the huge difference between the portrayal of Geryu's specific attack and Boros. At best, you'd get something like 'possibly at least Relativistic+' for Orochi since we can't even confirm if it's speed, and the other two Combatants aren’t scaled to Geryu’s rocks.
Also, even if AC could sense Orochi's killing intent, nothing indicates he didn't react at all to Orochi.
If light speed Orochi is accepted, then light speed reaction for Metal Knight because he blocked Orochi's attack but only went through with its piercing
I don’t see anything suggesting he didn’t see. But then
No, it isn’t the same logic. The fact is, Boros was keeping up with Saitama and he didn’t see him as a bad joke.
What are the relativistic beams based on?
If light speed Orochi is accepted, then light speed reaction for Metal Knight because he blocked Orochi's attack but only went through with its piercing
Not counters; he was catching Boros’ strikes, with an incredibly bored expression. He got hit by an attack? Oh, Suiryu also landed attacks, so Suiryu should get upgraded too to FTL??You see Saitama throwing counters in the ship and even get hit by an attack he’s not expecting.
Where’s it shown to be under a second?
Why pre-redraw?Wouldnt pre-redraw Orochi be light speed?
One could make the argument that he could be, but it wouldn’t be accepted, because he’s not Boros.Wouldnt pre-redraw Orochi be light speed?
They’re not counters. He’s literally catching and BLOCKING. Since when does Saitama ever fight with open-palm strikes? Notice how Boros is clearly using FISTS and Saitama’s hands are open??They were counters. How could you catch an attack with hands in that position?
Way different scenario. Suiryu didn’t catch Saitama off guard.
You’re talking about tens of kilometres of cracks and water. 5 seconds is fairly reasonable.
Saitama put in way more effort against him than Geryushoop and was grabbed by Orochi and iirc dodge one of Saitamas punchesWhy pre-redraw?
The redraw was a mistakeSaitama put in way more effort against him than Geryushoop and was grabbed by Orochi and iirc dodge one of Saitamas punches
Ok, so? This just proves my point. Boros isn’t keeping up, Saitama is keeping down. He’s LETTING Boros hit him instead of just OBLITERATING him with punches.I’m fairly sure that’s what counters are, like countering a hit by blocking. His fists are open, but his palms are always behind his fingers.
What are you on about?
I know what’s you mean. And also, you’re really wanking this feat here; the water fell down to the Earth in about the same time as it dropped.
No, the next one.Is the next chapter this week?
I'm taking tier 5 OPM over dodgy Saitama scaling for one character any dayThe redraw was a mistake
Anywhay pre-redraw should have a possible shame it got retconned