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Yes, I am legally insane, I she shoudl 100% scale above Orochi.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Haragiri thought he could take out the entire Swordsman group, including Atomic Samurai.
Literally every entity bragging about their strength when facing Saitama.
That one random swordsman monster thinking he could fight Atomic Samurai.
Psykos and anything Tatsumaki related.
Fuhrer Ugly thinking Bang wasn’t anything special.
Geryuganshoop “greatest psychic in the universe” shtick. He’s technically not a monster tho.
Sky King and Co thinking they can attack the whole S class HQ and actually win.
Rhino Wrestler.
Bakuzan’s existence.
Choze’s existence.
Etc, etc.
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Again, I agree with you, but there is some kin of precedent for characters hyping themselves up. Usually though, it's in relation to their accumulative power rather than the effectivness of one of their abilities.
For example, Deep Sea king is the "Supreme Lifeform", (
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I doubt it took a full second for Psykorochi’s beams to cross that continent, so in my eyes they’d be relativistic at default, and Tatsumaki scales above or similar to them in speed.
But that’s just me, and I don’t care to make CRTs.
But that’s just me, and I don’t care to make CRTs.
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Haragiri just hadn't seen AS at full power.
He hadn't seen Tatsumaki.
They are ancient beings that don't even know what humanity is capable of.
They don't know Saitama's strength.
Well, he was the only one to survive his suppressed AS. Since he is above that attack it's natural he thinks he has a chance of victory.
Tatsumaki was suppressed.
Was fooled by his leader, who made him believe he could take on a S class hero.
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It could be under 1 second, but saying it was 0.08 is a big jump.
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Am I the only one that thinks using the length of Genos's Incenertor Canon in the Magna, and then the 1 frame it takes to extend in the Anime is kind of ridiculous? I mean what if the beam took less than 1 frame to move that distance, or if the scene is in some form of cinimatic time, or the beams are completly different lengths.
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So, do you realize that every monster that was hyping himself up was because they lacked knowledge on other powerful beings? That's why Gouketsu was so calm, because he knew he didn't have anything to do against Orochi. And humans are the same, Suiryu hypes himself up to the point of saying heroes are not needed, Gouketsu and Bang saw themselves as the pinacle of their race... Everyone was humbled after losing, despite being a monster or a human.
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0.008 secuns
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There’s still no proof Cockroach’s ability actually allows him to sense or dodge lightspeed attacks.
But if someone wants to make the justification that Orochi scales way above Geryuganshoop (stated to fodderise), and can blitz Cockroach (has lightspeed-sense-dodging, allegedly) thus making it consistent, and Tatsumaki easily scales way above Orochi for being able to stomp Psykorochi and even possibly going FTE to her, making Tatsumaki relativistic to FTL, that person can go ahead.
I ain’t doing anything tho. I’m lazy.
But if someone wants to make the justification that Orochi scales way above Geryuganshoop (stated to fodderise), and can blitz Cockroach (has lightspeed-sense-dodging, allegedly) thus making it consistent, and Tatsumaki easily scales way above Orochi for being able to stomp Psykorochi and even possibly going FTE to her, making Tatsumaki relativistic to FTL, that person can go ahead.
I ain’t doing anything tho. I’m lazy.
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Yeah, I think we could/should probably draft up a massive speed upgrade doc for a lot of OPM characters.
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Pre-redraw Orochi could dodge a ”normal punch” from Saitama and I’ll never forgive that for being deleted.
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For the AC argument, ONE writes the story and in no other circumstance has there been a powerscaled moment where he specifically put something but LS dodging for AC. Like AC is purely plot to get eaten up by Orochi. There was no other reason for him besides Orochi being able to catch a LS dodging ability.
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Authorial intent should definitely be taken into consideration here.
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Yep, and the authorial intent is indeed Orochi catching a LS dodging defense, making him FTL.
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FTL Orochi FRA
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dont know and even if we did wouldnt matter
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I feel like what the Author is trying to say about their character's power should at least have some weight on how we view their statements or feats.
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I swear there was an end (high end I think) for Psykorochi's beams that used 0.25 seconds since that's human reaction time and the civilians reacted to the flash of Psykorochi's beam that received sub/relativistic results.
I honestly don't see why that end wasn't accepted tbh.
I honestly don't see why that end wasn't accepted tbh.
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Idk, looking at the calc, one CGM thought the 0.25s end was best and another thought the 1s end was best.
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Where did the talk about country-sized Beefcake come from?
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Pretty sure this Lightspeed thing for AC was already rejected
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Him supposedly having size equal to a "city" , which in one punch man are actually countrys
But this got debunked many times because his canon size is 270 meters
and the cities are composed of a urban area and a lot of mountain ranges, so he only scales to a portion of the urban area at best
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It was rejected for being an outlier pretty sure, but it adds up more with the scaling now
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I actually feel the opposite, having a demon level threat with feats higher than most speedsters of the verse (Flash, Hellfire, Gale, Sonic), being close to others (Platinum, Garou), with even Saitama having a hard time finding FTL feats to scale to (Only got a solid one with the recent chapters), absolutely sounds an outlier to me, similar to FTL Atomic Samurai
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If it's a proper render from the manga, I kinda agree. But most of the time it's just a badly cropped manga panel that's super grainy and low res. For example, Darkshine's manga image looks great, but go through Gouketsu's image history and you'll see how bad they were.
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I'm convinced you haven't even looked at the profiles in a while since Darkshine's image has been the manga one for a while now. Unless you're saying that Darkshine's manga image looks bad. Gouketsu's image looks fine.
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I have recalculated the Garou and Sage Centipede feats, these are the results:
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One-Punch Man - Garou and Platinum Sperm move very fast
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- Speed: 369868524.6764975382 m/s | 1.23c (FTL) (Evaluated)
One-Punch Man - Sage Centipede Stats
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- PE: 4.8164036E+19 Joules | 11.5 Gigatons (Island level)
- KE: 6.7411822E+21 Joules | 1.6 Teratons (Small Country level)
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Bump
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KE has already been deviated from the site's rules, unfortunately. I think SS needs to be multiplied by 2 given that she manages to balance the balance and not collapse.I have recalculated the Garou and Sage Centipede feats, these are the results:
One-Punch Man - Garou and Platinum Sperm move very fast
- Speed: 369868524.6764975382 m/s | 1.23c (FTL) (Evaluated)
One-Punch Man - Sage Centipede Stats
- PE: 4.8164036E+19 Joules | 11.5 Gigatons (Island level)
- KE: 6.7411822E+21 Joules | 1.6 Teratons (Small Country level)
And about the speed. When Tatsu pulls out the spear, we see that its diameter is larger than the diameter of the hole. The shape of the "spear" is a kind of plug.
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He can't move that quick, think of it as advanced observation haki, he can react but its not like he can actually do any offense. Also i still strongly hold onto FTL flashy flash, theres just no way to correctly calc constellation feats from one 2-D image.
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Kulf Boba, very well done and thank you! I have one simple recommendation for the Garou/Platinum FTL feat, multiply the distance travelled by 1.2 to account for all the distance travelled off panel, not to mention the unquantifiable amount of distance travelled on the Z-axis that we can't really count.I have recalculated the Garou and Sage Centipede feats, these are the results:
One-Punch Man - Garou and Platinum Sperm move very fast
- Speed: 369868524.6764975382 m/s | 1.23c (FTL) (Evaluated)
One-Punch Man - Sage Centipede Stats
- PE: 4.8164036E+19 Joules | 11.5 Gigatons (Island level)
- KE: 6.7411822E+21 Joules | 1.6 Teratons (Small Country level)
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For the speed, you should probably ask some calc members for a reasonable multiplier for off panel light lines. Pretty sure 1.2x was a popular agreement. But dam, nice grind, couldn't be me.I have recalculated the Garou and Sage Centipede feats, these are the results:
One-Punch Man - Garou and Platinum Sperm move very fast
- Speed: 369868524.6764975382 m/s | 1.23c (FTL) (Evaluated)
One-Punch Man - Sage Centipede Stats
- PE: 4.8164036E+19 Joules | 11.5 Gigatons (Island level)
- KE: 6.7411822E+21 Joules | 1.6 Teratons (Small Country level)
