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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki
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Yep. Worse is that the 6D true form is the mind controlling the avatar, so that knocks off quite a few incap methods.
Georredannea15
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Plot hax can't negate TD2 or ND2 by default, it just extends as far as it shows in the verse.Do you know if plot hax bypasses TD type 2
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I don't know.Do you know if plot hax bypasses TD type 2
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LotR could maybe go on the list, but their abilities still need revising.
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The Ainur all have a Low 1-C key as well, so you could put it as "characters from LotR"
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Btw i guess most battles on the list ends incon(Except for a few I guess.)... Both with existence haxs and layers of hax.
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Yo georr do you know if Immeasurable speed is fast enough to counter passive hax?
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Yes, if a character has immeasurable speed he ignores passive hax by default, unless that passive hax is shown to affect immeasurable characters.
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If passive hax works for immeasurable speed in the verse, yes it can affect. Other than that, i guess no.
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Georredannea15
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When I look at the profiles, I guess ZI-O, Kratos and Sonic are left incons in this case. @Robo432343
ZI-O has type 2 TD so he can't be influenced by concepts, but Sonic and Kratos have higher hax layers and resistances so ZI-O can't kill them (at least when I look at the profiles)
ZI-O has type 2 TD so he can't be influenced by concepts, but Sonic and Kratos have higher hax layers and resistances so ZI-O can't kill them (at least when I look at the profiles)
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ZI-O has every single rider ability which includes plot hax
thats why i dont think its incon
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Damn... I didn't know there was a plot hax...ZI-O has every single rider ability which includes plot hax
thats why i dont think its incon
Btw I guess how about removing smurfs from this list? Because some verses scare me especially this one
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Thought-based 1-A hax goes brrr.Because some verses scare me especially this one
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Perhaps.
It could be with Arale fused with Towa or CC Goku tree or something like that.
Arale despite the plot hax, she has no resistance to concept 1 and information 2.
CC goku has this but no plot hax.
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It depends on how many layers there will be, because Kratos is immune to all type 1 concepts and has no interaction.
So good luck even touching, interacting and affecting him, let alone hurting him.
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has Kratos shown resistance to plot hax?
Georredannea15
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Nahh... That's the only problem anyway. However, thanks to his foresight, analysis and initial attacks, he has many wincons and incons against plot hax.
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Damn... It's been so long I've forgotten their names
All I remember are the ridiculous cartoon characters that all has broken plot haxs.
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I was gonna mention Xenoblade but they're 6-D, not 5-D
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Arale's hax plot is passive
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Yes
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DependsDo you know if plot hax bypasses TD type 2
If the character TD2 establishes that plot / narrative is a duality system that exists within the given verse then yeah
By default, we don’t assume that without proper verse context so no
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if that wasn’t a case, a character could gain resistance to concept Hax, info Hax, causality Hax even without Concepts, Information or Causality being once mentioned in the verse as a duality system and would just get resistances to those abilities by nature of “I have TD2 so even if my verse doesn’t establish that duality system… I still have resistance anyways cause that’s how TD2 works”
I don’t know about that…someone with plot hax can literally say "i dont want you to exist within this duality system" or something and it would work
I think the plot Hax user would need feats of being able to affect duality systems established by the verse before they can just outright remove/negate a characters TD state of being.
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it is no longer a joke.Jokes aside
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Would heroes characters make the list I think they should
so I guess it doesn’t matter so long as everyone is having fun
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Oh
lol 
Just curious, What established duality systems are in the verse
Call a verse supporter pronto because I must know the source of their power and the the secrets behind their scrub mechanics
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they at number 3
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Nice
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Trust me, I hate that I know logically this makes sense but any time you see TD2 and plot hax interactions mentioned in QnA you hear someone scream NLF cause plot manip is considered a form reality warping even though it ironically requires a NLF to make it valid.My guy
You could have just waited for her profile to be properly and completely updated since she actually does
if that wasn’t a case, a character could gain resistance to concept Hax, info Hax, causality Hax even without Concepts, Information or Causality being once mentioned in the verse as a duality system and would just get resistances to those abilities by nature of “I have TD2 so even if my verse doesn’t establish that duality system… I still have resistance anyways cause that’s how TD2 works”
I don’t know about that…
I think the plot Hax user would need feats of being able to affect duality systems established by the verse before they can just outright remove/negate a characters TD state of being.
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Where's Arceus?
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Vampire Hunter D both has and resists 5D Plot Manipulation himself.
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Ohma has higher than 5D stuff, and I think other character on here does as well.
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