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if thats the case then shouldn't that bypass NEP type 2?
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Strongest 5D Characters on the Wiki
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Vietthai96
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ngl, idfk at this point, these NEP2 and Nondual is confuse the hell out of me, i rather deal with AE than them
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Assuming your talking about aspect 4, no it wouldnt as the information wouldnt exist
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damn bruh kratos v sonic ended in incon
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Wut???
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Kratos vs Sonic (again)
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kratos vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_(Modern) Both 5D SBA Speed Equal
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if azrael doesn't use his plot manip in combat then spawn wins 
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ah shit i forgor about instant death characters
sonic and maybe demigra wont be able to interact with this guy
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sonic and maybe demigra wont be able to interact with this guy
Kouryu
Kouryu is a fallen dragon and one of the old gods who ruled the universe. In the ancient past, he was defeated and driven out by Malna-Rilna, who then became the Administrator of the universe. As the last survivor of the fallen dragon race, he uses the name of his race as his own name. After...
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DBH characters can interact with NEP type 1'sah shit i forgor about instant death characters
sonic and maybe demigra wont be able to interact with this guy
Kouryu
Kouryu is a fallen dragon and one of the old gods who ruled the universe. In the ancient past, he was defeated and driven out by Malna-Rilna, who then became the Administrator of the universe. As the last survivor of the fallen dragon race, he uses the name of his race as his own name. After...
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every aspect of NEP 1?
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Not with every but aslong as they can interact with one of them then they should be fine
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Aspect means they’re immune to that thing it doesn’t matter for interaction, only type does.
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What Demigra??, Xenoverse or the Heroes one??ah shit i forgor about instant death characters
sonic and maybe demigra wont be able to interact with this guy
Kouryu
Kouryu is a fallen dragon and one of the old gods who ruled the universe. In the ancient past, he was defeated and driven out by Malna-Rilna, who then became the Administrator of the universe. As the last survivor of the fallen dragon race, he uses the name of his race as his own name. After...
Aspect only allow you to immune to hax that aim at such aspect, DBH character can physically interact NEP Nature 1 so Aspect is pointless, and TP can NEP Erasure so yep Demigra can deal with him, unless another hax layer battle unfold lol
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I mean, the layer of the strongest version of demigra was not accepted. So for now it doesn't have layers? I think the OP should put "mainly UT Goku" since he's the one with the layers.
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Dark King Demigra just upscales from U.T Goku’s layers since he possess higher levels of time power. Although, I think the OP should mention U.T Goku too.
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Dark king fu doesn't even have time power. Also, you would need a crt to include this.
Currently from what is accepted, UT Goku is the one with the most layers of TP;
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wait goku>demigra??
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Demigra's layers were not accepted in the evaluation thread, and no one tried to go another way to provide layers for this shape. So based on what is currently accepted, in terms of TP hax layers, UT Goku is higher. I mean, I guess you can argue that due to the power of the TP, Demigra would have equal but higher layers? No.
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so if someone made a goku vs demigra matchup, goku would win?
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My mistake I meant Dark King Demigra not Fu. I wouldn’t need a crt to make Demigra upscale though since that’s already accepted it wouldn’t be an additional layer, but he’d upscale.
No, but you should mention Goku as well.
That’s not how it works: Goku is accepted having his own layers, but Demigra still has higher TP beyond him that is accepted. He just doesnt have an additional layer ontop of it he would match Goku’s layer, but still upscale.
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Obviously you need it.
The only thing that was accepted there was that UT Goku and the key have 7 layers of TP.
And not that Demigra has an upscaling.
Like seriously, mention here in which part of the discussion glass accepted Demigra's upscaling for UT Goku.
And this is what needs to be accepted, the upscaling of demigra to goku, something that was not mentioned in the topic.
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I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. Demigra‘s time power ability is above U.T Goku’s, but it’s not an additional layer. U.T Goku has 7-8 layers, Demigra would have the same amount. The reason for this is because simply having more time power being a resistance wasn’t accepted by Glass. Demigra being stronger than Goku was already accepted, so Demigra simply scales from Goku. We don’t need that accepted again just the number of layers accepted.
It has nothing to do with layers, so why the hell would it be mentioned? Demigra being stronger than Goku time power wise granting an extra layer wasn’t accepted.
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instant death characters passively nuke the cosmology and they have NEP1 aspect 1,2,3,4,5
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Only Type matters, not that Sonic can interact with anyways
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added but what does goku have that demigra doesn't??
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I think that huge aura of AP and the powers of the Tree.
I think, I can't get the profiles right on my cell phone, so I don't remember.
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Demigra doesn’t have the aura size that Goku does. Goku’s passive aura allows him to passively erase his opponents as a starting move. Goku also has the powers of the Universe Tree which gives him PoD and Time Power. Demigra has the powers of Time Power and Dark Factor. So, they have their own wincons and would probably be attribute to SDBH’s wins either way.
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Dosent time power already have passive bs
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Yes, but Goku’s passive aura range is probably the biggest.
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so Goku vs demigra is probably incon right?
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So apparently void manipulation can deal with NEP type 1, and that could probably deal with the Instant Death people
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Where did you get this info from
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Conversion into existence on the page, which can bring things from nonexistence into existences, and NEP Type 1 is just non existence
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What can they do about the cosmology being destroyed
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Depends on how both the NEP and Void Manipulation operates if it can affect them. It's not automatically all Void Manipulation can affect all NEP Type 1 beings.
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