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We should discuss that elsewhere instead of continuously derailing this thread.
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Star Wars Revision: Godly Sith Lords (Legends)
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This.
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The feats are legitimate. The calcs are good. It makes sense in and out of context... I honestly have nothing to say. It seems alright to use .
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@Ever
No offense, but you are clinging way too much to the Ventress and Savage thing. Help against Savage? The dude was fighting against both.
And even with that, that's literally one instance vs the 20 quotes I brought up. Seriously, if you don't agree, at least adress each one with context that contradicts them, because otherwise, the Ventress-Savage thing is the one that's contradicting everything else.
About Sidious' hologram, yes. We know Sidious is stronger.
Sorry about the derailment, but that pissed me off a bit.
No offense, but you are clinging way too much to the Ventress and Savage thing. Help against Savage? The dude was fighting against both.
And even with that, that's literally one instance vs the 20 quotes I brought up. Seriously, if you don't agree, at least adress each one with context that contradicts them, because otherwise, the Ventress-Savage thing is the one that's contradicting everything else.
About Sidious' hologram, yes. We know Sidious is stronger.
Sorry about the derailment, but that pissed me off a bit.
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Like prom said this would be best in another thread. anyway... i agree with the upgrades
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problem? : )Sheoth said:
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Mother Talzin should still be 4-B. The gap between them isn't big enough to warrant a tier gap
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She gets defeated by Sidious in two pages.
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I suppose "Large Star level+" seems okay for Mother Talzin and Made Windu.
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No, just surprised. Didn't know how powerful these characters were. I support these upgrades as well, if my support is worth anything.
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I find it funny that I disagreed with the High 4-C upgrades, and then I supported these 4-B upgrades.
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I wanna do Palpatine vs Frieza because of how fitting that would be, but that would also probably be a maaaassive stomp.Js250476 said:
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Palpatine would haxstomp 3-A Frieza.
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Will this be put in by any chance or is there something going on about the scaling here again?
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I only skimmed through most of this, so sorry if I missed something,
Shouldn´t Kyp be affected as well? He was the greatest of Luke´s students (which would put him > Brakiss), and he has this: Luke Skywalker had done this once, a couple of years ago. He'd mentioned it to the other Jedi. No one else had tried it because it had exhausted Luke to the point of collapse, and Jedi were seldom in a position to survive a technique that tired them so completely.
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And he didn't think he'd be as terribly drained as Luke by the technique. He was stronger in the Force than Luke Skywalker.
He'd known that almost since they'd met - that he had more pure power than the legendary Jedi Master. But this was, perhaps, the first time he'd been able to say it to himself without a little thrill of pride. He was just stronger, and that was all. It usually didn't matter. Now it did.
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IIRC Luke was already weakened as he performed that feat, but it still shows that Kyp is comparable to Luke in raw power, while Caedus got stomped.
Shouldn´t Kyp be affected as well? He was the greatest of Luke´s students (which would put him > Brakiss), and he has this: Luke Skywalker had done this once, a couple of years ago. He'd mentioned it to the other Jedi. No one else had tried it because it had exhausted Luke to the point of collapse, and Jedi were seldom in a position to survive a technique that tired them so completely.
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And he didn't think he'd be as terribly drained as Luke by the technique. He was stronger in the Force than Luke Skywalker.
He'd known that almost since they'd met - that he had more pure power than the legendary Jedi Master. But this was, perhaps, the first time he'd been able to say it to himself without a little thrill of pride. He was just stronger, and that was all. It usually didn't matter. Now it did.
- New Jedi Order: Enemy Lines I: Rebel Dreams
IIRC Luke was already weakened as he performed that feat, but it still shows that Kyp is comparable to Luke in raw power, while Caedus got stomped.
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Isn't Kyp pretty arrogant? He claimed once that he was one of the most powerful Jedi in history and as powerful as Grand Master Luke.
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I'm not too knowledgeable about SW, but I personally find it weird seeing Darth Vader below these guys that much.
Nonetheless, I agree with the upgrades.
Nonetheless, I agree with the upgrades.
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He wouldn't be able to do that if they weren't at least comparable in power, nor block them from Windu during the clone wars, who would've tried killing him at that point.Reppuzan said:
At that point, Vader had the potential to surpass Palpatine, Dooku did not. Rule of 2 was still relevent under Palpy
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Anyway, will this go in?
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How much MFTL+ are the top tier Star Wars character now? Billions or Trillion Times MFTL or what?
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So as to recap.
High 4-C or High 4-C+
For Mace Windu and Mother Talzin.
And 4-B
For Yoda,Vitiate,Sidious,DE Luke and Hero of Tython.
High 4-C or High 4-C+
For Mace Windu and Mother Talzin.
And 4-B
For Yoda,Vitiate,Sidious,DE Luke and Hero of Tython.
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@Julian
Arcann, Novel and Shadow of Revan Revan, Shimrra and Caedus are also 4-B.
Arcann, Novel and Shadow of Revan Revan, Shimrra and Caedus are also 4-B.
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Okay thanks Ever.
High 4-C or High 4-C+
For Mace Windu and Mother Talzin.
4-B
For Yoda,Vitiate,Sidious,DE Luke,Hero of Tython,Arcann,SR Revan,Shimrra and Caedus.
High 4-C or High 4-C+
For Mace Windu and Mother Talzin.
4-B
For Yoda,Vitiate,Sidious,DE Luke,Hero of Tython,Arcann,SR Revan,Shimrra and Caedus.
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Luke fought Supes Prime thoJared1111 said:
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Lemme guess...Matthew Schroeder said:
With Speed Equalized.
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Sidious is only 2x slower than Frieza.
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