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We will discuss it more in part 2
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Star Wars Cosmology Revision (Part 1 of 4: Legends Cosmology Overview)
- Thread starter StoneKillerz12
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I think most high level force users and most jedi in the post rotj timeline should be affected.
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Mortis gods also have Nonduality?
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I would definitely say this is entirely flowery language. It doesn’t say he was drawing on the entirety of the Dark Side, just that he was drawing on the Force. And frankly none of his actual feats come remotely close to even 4-B, let alone the kind of universal power that would be implied from wielding the entirety of a facet of the Force.
Hell, Dooku gets quickly tired from just throwing Kenobi around and none of the Force blasts being thrown about even breach the ship they are fighting in.
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It definitely seems appropriate to have a Mortis Amped key for Anakin and just copy over whatever tiering we give the Mortis Gods.
Also one more thing I would like to add for the Otherspace scaling:
Since it is mentioned that Otherspace is “one step removed” from Hyperspace:
While also being held as “between” Realspace and Hyperspace:
I think that it should be recognized that Otherspace is one dimension down from Hyperspace. So while Hyperspace should be 6D+ (1-C), Otherspace would be 5D+ (Low 1-C).
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I completely disagree. The narrative style of Star Wars novels is like this, and this has already been discussed. It is very clear here that Dooku is gathering power from all corners of the universe, and it explicitly states that he is drawing upon the full power of the dark side. There is no flowery language here. By your reasoning, Star Wars characters are significantly downgraded because this is just how Star Wars conveys its storytelling. There is absolutely no embellishment in this context.Additionally, something that confirms this is not a flowery expression is the fact that the energies Dooku drew upon started to weigh heavily on him after a certain point, causing him to become fatigued. This clearly shows that it is absolutely not an exaggerated statement
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We can have these talks in the next thread, let's finish here first
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I agree
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Alright. What else needs to be done then ? Do we have enough staff approvals to get at least the Cosmology (not scaling) approved of ?
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How much staff member approved so far?
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From rereading the thread only 2 staff approved this.
Epyriel
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Lephyr and Ovens both agreed to everything so that is sufficient to approve the revision (you only need 2). Firestorm has also approved half of it.
The only concern is what exactly is being approved, as the OP has changed things but not updated the original post.
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Very good point.
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Two staff of the three required approved I believe, but the odds are looking great.
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Lol no
This is a tier 1 revision. Minimum is 3, but it's encouraged to have a very thorough discussion with multiple staff members.
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Just to back up what Lephy says here. Since this is a Tier 1 thread, it does require multiple staff members here as stated in the discussion rules.
- The review and approval of content revisions that affect Tier 1 and/or Tier 0 ratings or that are highly controversial should preferably be conducted by a larger number of staff members in order to ensure that all relevant parties are aware of and agree with the proposed changes. It is essential that these revisions are evaluated by staff members who possess a reasonable level of genuine understanding and expertise in these areas in order to maintain the accuracy and quality of the revised material.
- Input from highly respected members of the community, such as experts on the topic, should be taken into consideration when determining the necessary level of review and approval.
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Good so far, but we are waiting on Qaw and Firestorm to see what their stances are on the proposals
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Also, I think the Ones from Mortis should maintain their 1-C tiering for their physical forms (the first post changed it to Low 1-C). Let's not forget there's still Mortis, which was iirc superior to the universe, hyperspace included. May be wrong here though.
I think that Otherspace should retain its 7D scaling as well, being between realspace and hyperspace doesn't really mean much. Plus, more times and prominently than not it is stated as "beyond the shifting colours of Hyperspace" (as per the OP's own scans), which is basically fancy for Otherspace>Hyperspace qualitatively, so yeah.
I think that Otherspace should retain its 7D scaling as well, being between realspace and hyperspace doesn't really mean much. Plus, more times and prominently than not it is stated as "beyond the shifting colours of Hyperspace" (as per the OP's own scans), which is basically fancy for Otherspace>Hyperspace qualitatively, so yeah.
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