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Soul King VS Asriel (Probably a stomp and I’m very likely going to regret this, but here we go)

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Who wins?

Soul King:

Asriel:

Inconclusive:

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Photoshop Flowey is weaker than Asriel was able to SAVE and LOAD as many timelines as he desired during his fight with Frisk. Asriel reached Godhood and possessed the power to erase timelines at will. Even the Soul King, if Yhwach is any indication, is limited to "altering the future" so that future events happen in the present.

Asriel stomps.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Your argument doesn't make sense. What's the comparison between fate manipulation and destroying a timeline lol?
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You've never played Undertale, have you? Those able to reset the timeline (destroy, in Asriel's case) remember all their experiences. The Player Character, every time they died, simply return to their last SAVE point and can fight the same battles again with new knowledge of their opponent's abilities until they win, or even RESET all the way to when they first fell into the Underground.

Asriel, with six Human SOULS and all the SOULS of the Monsters in the Underground, has the same power on a Godly scale.

Need I remind you that Tsukishima bypassed the Almighty by creating a new "past" for Ichigo, thus creating a new "future" where his Bankai wasn't broken in all possible future?

I'd argue SAVE, LOAD, RESET and timeline destruction are hard-counters to an ability limited to "altering the future".
 
Nope I never played it.

Also he didn't bypass the Almighty at all. He didn't even interact with it lol. He fixed Ichigo’s broken sword is all which Yhwach already knew.

Besides that point Reio has Tsukishima’s power as well. I assume you don't know the character seeing as he has several different passive hax. I’ve yet to see an argument for negating Reio’s plethora of abilities.

If Asriel’s only argument is “AP” which doesn't matter here due to low godly, and multiple types of immortal then it's a stomp.
 
Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Nope I never played it.

Also he didn't bypass the Almighty at all. He didn't even interact with it lol. He fixed Ichigo’s broken sword is all which Yhwach already knew.

Besides that point Reio has Tsukishima’s power as well. I assume you don't know the character seeing as he has several different passive hax. I’ve yet to see an argument for negating Reio’s plethora of abilities.

If Asriel’s only argument is “AP” which doesn't matter here due to low godly, and multiple types of immortal then it's a stomp.
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Yeah, about that.

Exactly what arguments were used to justify those composite profiles of Yhwach and the Soul King, even though we've never seen Yhwach use any of the Schrifts of the Sternritter whose powers he absorbed? The ability to do so seems to be pure speculation and fan-theory, from where I'm standing, and I'll argue the same is true for the Soul King's profile. The most you can claim for the Soul King is that he might have the powers of his Aspects (Gremmy, Mimihagi, Gerard, Pernida); claiming he retroactively possesses the abilities of all Fullbringers and all Schrifts, on the other hand, seems dubious.

The fragments of the Soul King bonded with Humans and helped awaken the latent abilities in their souls; Yhwach's Schrift allowed the Stern Ritter to awaken their own latent abilities, including Uryu, whose "Antithesis" is indicated to surpass "The Almighty". Awakening the latent abilities of others is no magic justification for either Yhwach or the Soul King possessing all said abilities.

"The Almighty", and his ability to create the three worlds and maintain the flow of souls, are the powers we know the Soul King possesses for certain, so those are the points I will address.
 
Maybe because Yhwach is directly stated to gain the abilities of those that died via absorbing their souls? That's not fan headcanon. Him not using them in character isn't an argument. He has an EE sword from Yama that he stole and never once used it.

Except Soul King is stated to have countless abilities and that those Fullbringer abilities are his. It becomes awakened within the humans that are born with one of his shards via the hollow influence but they're still his powers in the 1st place.

Make a a CRT to remove them from the profiles. Until then I don't really care about this right here.
 
manu_zarri said:
actually, If Asriel would destroy the timeline, what The Soul King would see?
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In all likelihood, nothing beyond that point of destruction, especially if he doesn't survive it.


Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye said:
Maybe because Yhwach is directly stated to gain the abilities of those that died via absorbing their souls? That's not fan headcanon. Him not using them in character isn't an argument. He has an EE sword from Yama that he stole and never once used it.

Except Soul King is stated to have countless abilities and that those Fullbringer abilities are his. It becomes awakened within the humans that are born with one of his shards via the hollow influence but they're still his powers in the 1st place.

Make a a CRT to remove them from the profiles. Until then I don't really care about this right here.
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To be more specific, people interpreted that to mean their abilities as well - the definition of headcanon - rather than just power and knowledge, skills and talents. We saw the Auswahlen used to take the life force and power from the Sternritter in Soul Society and give that power and life force to the Schutzstaffel.

Again, we never saw Yhwach use the specific abilities of any of the Sternritter at any point. We see him use his natural Quincy techniques, his natural abilities to give and take power, the Almighty, and the power of the Soul King. That's the extent of it.

The same goes for Fullbringer abilities. The fragments of the Soul King allow Humans to awaken Fullbring abilities, but that doesn't mean the Soul King himself would have possessed those abilities while alive.
 
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