Sans vs Doffy

[Ricsi-viragosi]

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The characters will employ their usual battle strategies

verse equalization bra

you mean killing a 2b in 5 second via bypassing dura is game mechanics????

extrasensory perception is not needed, its part of someones soul and is part of the soul manipulation, unless all ut char cters should have it due to seeing souls

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Argument stands.
Unless Sans is bloodlusted, which is not that common in character, he just gets outranged or out sustained.

he is in hes usual battel strategy

 

[BattleReviews]

Argument stands.
Unless Sans is bloodlusted, which is not that common in character, he just gets outranged or out sustained.

again, teleportation,

 

[LordGinSama]

@Ricsi


Uuuuuu excuse me? Verse equalization????????

 

[KinkiestSins]

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The characters will employ their usual battle strategiesverse equalization bra
you mean killing a 2b in 5 second via bypassing dura is game mechanics????

extrasensory perception is not needed, its part of someones soul and is part of the soul manipulation, unless all ut char cters should have it due to seeing souls

That is not how verse equalization works,

Verse equalization is literally

magic nullfying items = works in other verses with magic. Does not apply here... maybe, otherwise we have another crt planned.

No, but with precog, it would be likely be very hard to hit. Especially if Doffy opens up with Awakening or Parasito

And seeing souls is extrasensory perception, that was point. which is game mechanics and even if it wasnt, it isnt listed on his profile and thus a crt needs to be put into placed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Ricsi

Uuuuuu excuse me? Verse equalization????????

soul manipulation is assumed to work despite theother verses soul manipulation being different, and seeing levels is part of that, much like howmonika can affect eapoles minds despite them not haveing chr files

 

[KinkiestSins]

@Ricsi

Uuuuuu excuse me? Verse equalization????????

soul manipulation is assumed to work despite theother verses soul manipulation being different, and seeing levels is part of that, much like howmonika can affect eapoles minds despite them not haveing chr files

That isnt verse equalization. That is basically because occams razor, which applies to 90 percent of vs debating.

But seeing someone 'lvl' is game mechanics.

And if it wasnt, we are going to have another CRT needed because that would mean everyone gets Clairvoyance.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And seeing souls is extrasensory perception, that was point. which is game mechanics and even if it wasnt, it isnt listed on his profile and thus a crt needs to be put into placed.

papyrus litiraly talks about it and asgore litiraly oput them into bottles and SHOWED them to you

 

[KinkiestSins]

And seeing souls is extrasensory perception, that was point. which is game mechanics and even if it wasnt, it isnt listed on his profile and thus a crt needs to be put into placed.

papyrus litiraly talks about it and asgore litiraly oput them into bottles and SHOWED them to you
Then make a crt about it, it isnt on his profile as an ability, and if it was, then fine.

But for now, he does not 'have' this ability.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

That isnt verse equalization. That is basically because occams razor, which applies to 90 percent of vs debating.

But seeing someone 'lvl' is game mechanics.

And if it wasnt, we are going to have another CRT needed because that would mean everyone gets Clairvoyance.

dude, lv is not game mechanics, much like save and load its part of the plot, where sanms and flowey talk about it and explain it

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

how is knowing somoens kill count clairvoyance??? and only sans and frisk (plus chara, whos the embodiment of it) have shown to be able to do that

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Just popping in to clarify something people seem to constantly forget.

Sans is 100% aware of the fact he can't do anything to an otherworldly being that can simply revive itself infinitely by altering time. He knows that Frisk is just an avatar for two horrificly deadly powers, at this point. He's fighting a war of attrition and trying to make you give up. Everything he does revolves around this goal, from the taunting, to the attempt to appeal to your humanity, to simply threatening to force you into an eternal deadlock until you get bored.

Repeatedly killing you is just a part of that. This is different than the type of mindset he'd have in a fight he can potentially win by conventional means.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Repeatedly killing you is just a part of that. This is different than the type of mindset he'd have in a fight he can potentially win by conventional means.

however we do have to take something like it, as its the only fighting strategy he ever uses

and on that note, should i make a crt about extra sensory for being able to see souls and sans being aware of your lv?

 

[KinkiestSins]

Repeatedly killing you is just a part of that. This is different than the type of mindset he'd have in a fight he can potentially win by conventional means.

I guess fair point, argument stands.

AT BEST this is inconclusive since the two one shot eachother.

I do however want to wank sans tho, so gimme a minute to come up with a solid argument.

 

[KinkiestSins]

and on that note, should i make a crt about extra sensory for being able to see souls and sans being aware of your lv?

Already made it.

Here: https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1321567

 

[Mazzxzz]

doffy

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

doffy

you know that wont be counted right?

 

[KinkiestSins]

He is technically right since you didnt add FRA or For Reasons above lol.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Lets see:

Doffy gots:

Awakening-Danmakuoffy are pretty easily to dodge,it go straight to the enemy unlike Sans who can do this

Possession:This might give Doffy edge because Sans got no resistance to that.

Precongnition:Sans danmaku get countered a bit by this

Haoshoku Haki:That doesn't do anything because Azathoth just explain that.

Sans gots:

Soul hax and KARMA:both of them is the keys here.Sans does a single point of damage per frame (equal to 40 damage per second).

Teleportationoflamingo fought Laws so he is familiar with this

Telekinesis + Gravity Manipulation:Sans can grap Doflamingo soul and throwing his like a ragdoll.Gravity Manipulation can decrease his speed.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Jamesthetaker wrote
possesion is done through strings

 

[BattleReviews]

so that would mean sans can teleport to avoid the strings, still, james proved why sans wins, still got that valid reason,

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Is Sans capble to use his powers without moving?

 

[KinkiestSins]

Jamesthetaker wrote

possesion is done through strings
And sans does not have resistance to string manipulation, this is a non factor other then can he dodge the parasito strings from the bird cage?

 

[BattleReviews]

Is Sans capble to use his powers without moving?

yes, but when sans does, he better cant, so he should teleport and attack,

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Doffy strings mostly go straight which are easily to dodge despite having thousand of them to they enemy and Sans can dodge it thanks to teleport.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Is Sans capble to use his powers without moving?

he can use them while moving

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And sans does not have resistance to string manipulation, this is a non factor other then can he dodge the parasito strings from the bird cage?

he can dodge them though and teletrasporting will automaticly get him out of there

 

[PaChi2]

So, are there any votes?

 

[KinkiestSins]

2 for Doffy I guess (I might as well change back, reasons above.)

2 or 3 for sans.

 

[PaChi2]

Doffy: 2

Sans: 3

Incon: 0

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Patiently waiting for Cin to come i

 

[CinCameron20]

see's the votes against Doflamingo, and the reasons why--triggered

Doflamingo telekinetically controls his threads. They do not go a straight path. When he uses Full Bright, he detaches the threads from his fingers and throws them at an angle to attack his opponent from above. He can literally makes it RAIN Parasito threads, which he does very consistently, as shown in both events he uses it in Dressrosa.

TBH, even if Sans CAN teleport away while caught in Parasito (possible, but I'm not entirely sure he'd be able to use his abilities due to his physical body being drastically weaker than someone like Luffy), Doflamingo still has a wide array of abilities that will assist him should Sans start teleporting all over. Precognition would allow Doffy to react faster to where Sans will appear, allowing him to throw an attack at that location to hit Sans simultaneously. Not to mention that singular threads from Doflamingo are incredibly hard for the eye to see.

Doflamingo's pre-cog and range pretty much give this to him from the start.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

TBH, even if Sans CAN teleport away while caught in Parasito (possible, but I'm not entirely sure he'd be able to use his abilities due to his physical body being drastically weaker than someone like Luffy)

hes abilities dont need his body to move wit the the exeption of blue magic

 

[CinCameron20]

@Ricsi - note how I was suggesting that there's a countermeasure for if he can teleport while Parasito'd. I clearly stated Parasito might not work

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Ricsi - note how I was suggesting that there's a countermeasure for if he can teleport while Parasito'd. I clearly stated Parasito might not work

yeah, i just cleared it up

 

[BattleReviews]

see's the votes against Doflamingo, and the reasons why--triggered
Doflamingo telekinetically controls his threads. They do not go a straight path. When he uses Full Bright, he detaches the threads from his fingers and throws them at an angle to attack his opponent from above. He can literally makes it RAIN Parasito threads, which he does very consistently, as shown in both events he uses it in Dressrosa.

TBH, even if Sans CAN teleport away while caught in Parasito (possible, but I'm not entirely sure he'd be able to use his abilities due to his physical body being drastically weaker than someone like Luffy), Doflamingo still has a wide array of abilities that will assist him should Sans start teleporting all over. Precognition would allow Doffy to react faster to where Sans will appear, allowing him to throw an attack at that location to hit Sans simultaneously. Not to mention that singular threads from Doflamingo are incredibly hard for the eye to see.

Doflamingo's pre-cog and range pretty much give this to him from the start.

1. he teleports to dodge it,

2. again, sans teleports, and since speed is equalized, the strings go at below average human speed,

 

[CinCameron20]

Also, Haoshoku will absolutely work considering the mere physical stat difference. It's not simply a mind attack, it's also got a physical presense and Doflamingo's shook the entire flower hill and sent Law flying when it clashed with Luffy's.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Also, Haoshoku will absolutely work considering the mere physical stat difference. It's not simply a mind attack, it's also got a physical presense and Doflamingo's shook the entire flower hill and sent Law flying when it clashed with Luffy's.

Sans also fought against Chara who is extremely bloodlust without fear.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Also, Haoshoku will absolutely work considering the mere physical stat difference. It's not simply a mind attack, it's also got a physical presense and Doflamingo's shook the entire flower hill and sent Law flying when it clashed with Luffy's.

if it does affect phisical body whitout needing another one to clash with tha this will be pretty stompish due to sans not having any counter to it

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Azathoth has explain why it ot gonna work against Sans.

he explained the mental part of it only