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How?Quick question: Couldn’t Itachi counter parasito by using Kotoamatsukami on himself just like he did before?
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How?Quick question: Couldn’t Itachi counter parasito by using Kotoamatsukami on himself just like he did before?
not in character for him and no Koto would probably not stop itQuick question: Couldn’t Itachi counter parasito by using Kotoamatsukami on himself just like he did before?
Dude would already be in genjutsu before he does anything.Quick question: Couldn’t Itachi counter parasito by using Kotoamatsukami on himself just like he did before?
Same thing he did when fighting Naruto. He just used a crow and placed himself under Koto to stop his own body from being controlled by the Edo Tensei technique.How?
Parasito is direct body control using strings, so it wouldn’t stop it.Same thing he did when fighting Naruto. He just used a crow and placed himself under Koto to stop his own body from being controlled by the Edo Tensei technique.
Yes but Itachi Does not use it IC (other then Edo but I don’t think there is any Debate on what happens between Edo Itachi and Dofflamingo)would susanoo block it out
He used it to block Kirin at the end of the fight, not at the start of the fight (although Activating Susanoo if he is being affected by Parasito might cut the string)He literally used it in his fight with sasuke
He’ll use it if it’s to block against something powerful, the same way he did to kirin.He used it to block Kirin at the end of the fight, not at the start of the fight (although Activating Susanoo if he is being affected by Parasito might cut the string)
Parasito is just a string so it won’t look super powerful to ItachiHe’ll use it if it’s to block against something powerful, the same way he did to kirin.
Yes he can see it (he can see stuff the size of Viruses)So he can see it? Precog plus substitution jutsu would work really well against this. Do they cause destruction if they hit the ground?
That's not true - he didn't use it against Jiraiya, he didn't use it against Kakashi until the end, he didn't use it against Kid Sasuke until right before he left. The only times Itachi used genjutsu instantly was against Hebi Sasuke (and Deidara).Then he simply genjutsu anyone since it makes things easy to deal with specially with how his mission works as a akatsuki.
Yes he should be able to see the strings and easily dodge it. His Sharingan should help to dodge itSo he can see it? Precog plus substitution jutsu would work really well against this. Do they cause destruction if they hit the ground?
Send me the manga website you read your naruto manga.Itachi doesn't always start with Genjutsu
He's only started it against Hebi Sasuke - which in lore has a reason. Itachi wanted to prove to Sasuke that the fight wasn't going to be easy. That he was actually going to be a challenge and that Sasuke needs to try his best against him. I've already given instances where Itachi HASN'T started with genjutsu and no one has refuted it yet so ....Send me the manga website you read your naruto manga.
By the time Itachi is activating his Sharingan + seeing the strings + and dodgingThe main point is that Itachi can dodge the strings and after a little time he’ll use genjutsu
Than it would keep going until either of them hit each other, as Kenbun would allow him to know when Itachi'd use a genjutsu.The main point is that Itachi can dodge the strings and after a little time he’ll use genjutsu
Nice argument budSend me the manga website you read your naruto manga.
Observation Haki.Whats kenbun
Thats just not true lmao.saying Itachi doesn’t always start with genjutsu is like saying Luffy doesn’t start with punches.
Uh no - he had a whole match against Kakashi before using genjutsu. Kid Sasuke he was just bullying him so eh - he didn't use it against Jiraiya AT ALL, and instead opted to running away.saying Itachi doesn’t always start with genjutsu is like saying Luffy doesn’t start with punches.
It’s technically true, but any time he hasn’t started with genjutsu there’s reasons behind it, and/or it’s his second starting move after his first.
His sharingan and is always active, have you read naruto?By the time Itachi is activating his Sharingan + seeing the strings + and dodging
Doffy will have time to know to avoid looking at Itachi's eyes with Kenbun. He can either just not look in his eyes or just fight with his eyes close.
Send me the manga chapter itachi fought kisame.Even against Kisame who he was sparring against - he didn't start with Genjutsu. Although he eventually did because Kisame was literally staring into his eyes like the whole match (Kisame still won by technicality because he made Itachi pull out Magenkyo lol).
He did use it against Orochimaru though - but that was clearly more as a fear tactic than an actual fight... because they weren't even fighting lol he was just showing his superiority.
It's not a manga chapter it's here. It's accepted as canon thoSend me the manga chapter itachi fought kisame.
That was because Itachi was trying to recruit him. The scenarios are indeed different. He was trying to bring him into the Akatsuki.using the leaf shinobi are really not his basic go to abilities, against Deidara though he went into genjutsu almost immediately.
Also yeah i checked - it is my bad. I forgorHis sharingan and is always active, have you read naruto?
Thats just not true lmao.w
sparring not an actual fight.Even against Kisame who he was sparring against - he didn't start with Genjutsu. Although he eventually did because Kisame was literally staring into his eyes like the whole match (Kisame still won by technicality because he made Itachi pull out Magenkyo lol).
Orochimaru was Under genjutsu from the beginning there, there wasn’t even a fight, so before Orochimaru even attacked him he was already mindhaxedHe did use it against Orochimaru though - but that was clearly more as a fear tactic than an actual fight... because they weren't even fighting lol he was just showing his superiority.
straight up false, clones are impossible to differentiate from the user even to KaguyaWith Haki, clones are useless,
nope it’s basically teleporting out of the waysubstitution is nigh useless.
Kakashi resists All Genjutsu except Tsukuyomi, He wanted Jiraiya to win and for them to escape (whereas mindhaxing and not killing him would be suspicious)Uh no - he had a whole match against Kakashi before using genjutsu. Kid Sasuke he was just bullying him so eh - he didn't use it against Jiraiya AT ALL, and instead opted to running away.
He has done it plenty of timesNow granted in lore, there's a reason why he didn't start with genjutsu because he wanted to send a message to Jiraiya and Kakashi that they were after Naruto + as well as drive Sasuke to get stronger.
But that is an assumption on your part to assume Itachi would start with Genjutsu when he's never actually done that iirc.
This is all ironic because you're ignoring why he did use Genjutsu in the first place.Itachi: literally uses genjutsu as a first move against the first person he sees in Konoha in part 1. Literally his first move against Kurenai in part 1, after talking; then essentially couldn't use any genjutsu besides Tsukuyomi for the rest of the fight, because everyone either closed their eyes or didn't look him in the eyes. He of course used it against Sasuke and also Deidara in part 2. So out of all of his fights, he hasn't started with genjutsu maybe 3 times (And that's only if you include kid sasuke, someone with genjutsu resistance, and a Sanin who he didn't want to fight when he was low on chakra)
Talking about his fight with part 1 Sasuke and using that as a feat of his not starting genjutsu is disingenuous, not only does Sasuke have a saringan that protects him from base genjutsu, but he was completely toying with Sasuke that entire time.
@Nierre
Kakashi also has resistance to every genjutsu that's not Tsukuyomi, which Itachi really didn't even want to use. He didn't want to fight Jiraiya at all as he had already used several genjutsu including Tsukuyomi, and even amaterasu that day adn way low on chakra.
Using all these to say Itachi won't start with genjustu ignores all context behind why he didn't use it to start. It'd literally be like saying Doffy wouldn't use P:arasyte because he didn't use it against people who can resist.
ignores all context
ignores all context
couldn't use any genjutsu besides Tsukuyomi for the rest of the fight, because everyone either closed their eyes or didn't look him in the eyes.
Ehhh sure I guess.sparring not an actual fight.
its not much of a spar if he instantly mindhax
Exactly, my point is the "fight" against Orochimaru can't even be used because there was no fight to begin with. It was just Itachi flexing and basically telling Orochimaru to know his place lol. IK nobody mentioned Orochimaru but I just wanted to shoot that down before someone tried to bring it up as an argument.Orochimaru was Under genjutsu from the beginning there, there wasn’t even a fight
I mean it's useless not because Doffy will be able to tell which is which - but because he will literally "see" when he uses a clone. "see" because he's using Haki.straight up false, clones are impossible to differentiate from the user even to Kaguya
Sure.nope it’s basically teleporting out of the way
Yes, but you have no proof that he'll use it against a random person he's fighting if he's never actually had that random encounter with a random person. Of course if he has then I'll concede, but none of you have come forth with said evidence.Kakashi resists All Genjutsu except Tsukuyomi, He wanted Jiraiya to win and for them to escape (whereas mindhaxing and not killing him would be suspicious)
It's just about who's better at arguing. Nobody has been able to prove it to me so why would I agree that's what he starts with in a random encounter if nobody has proved it to me.I kinda love how we’ve evolved from originally saying Sasuke doesn’t start with Genjutsu in a fight to now arguing Itachi doesn’t starts with genjutsu.
Naruto scaling progression at its finest
Ok. So? Regardless he had a reason not to use genjutsu here, and was low on chakra using Tsukuyomi twice.This is all ironic because you're ignoring why he did use Genjutsu in the first place.
He still used it to start, even if it was a reversal. He also used it on that random woman to seduce Jiraiya and on the first person he saw in Konoha.He reversed the Genjutsu placed on him by Kurenai - it's not like he walked up to her and placed one on her. Doffy doesn't have genjutsu's to place on him so that's not a good point for "Genjutsu is his starting move"
I was talking about his encounter with Kakashi and co.This isn't true at all. They actually make eye contact MANY times throughout the encounter.