DaMonkeMan
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So does Aramaki lol
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Sanji (Goat) vs Ryokugyu (Bull)
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... when has he ever shown any impressive natural heat resistance..?
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Not on ifrit jambe level of heat
DaMonkeMan
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DaMonkeMan
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He didn't use Haki to block Momo's flames, dude.
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His fire escape has no heat feats. As far as we know, it's just normal flame heat.
DaMonkeMan
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Still technically heat resistance lol.
Also how does Sanji avoid getting pierced and drained?
Sure his exoskeleton can tank it easily, but he's very likely going to start out in base or not know to completely defend against that because he doesn't know much about Aramaki's abilities.
DaMonkeMan
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Also, if Sanji manages to burn Aramaki, he can always just regrow from another plant nearby.
That's going to make it incredibly hard for Sanji to actually take him out because the dude passively generates tons of flowers around him and at the same time will be trying to catch Sanji with tens of tendrils that will instantly dry him out and murk him if they pierce him.
That's going to make it incredibly hard for Sanji to actually take him out because the dude passively generates tons of flowers around him and at the same time will be trying to catch Sanji with tens of tendrils that will instantly dry him out and murk him if they pierce him.
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He has Kenbun.
Also, why would he not turn his Exoskeleton on the moment he gets pressured?
I said impressive. We're comparing it to Queen's here.
Link is broken, but I know the scan you're talking about.
I disagree heavily. I already tackled this in my post, but even without that, Sanji has superior Kenbun to BOTS Zoro, who could easily sense where Pica would end up whenever he would pop up anywhere in his several kilometer wide body.
Which they won't and can't due to Sanji's heat, resistance to piercing attacks, better Buso and Kenbun, and speed.
I'm still yet to even hear an argument to if Aramaki can even perceive Sanji's top speeds.
DaMonkeMan
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He could restrain Flame Off King and Base Yamato, so I'd say he could.
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Sanji is faster than both of these people by far.
DaMonkeMan
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How?
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Base X Drake could react to Base Yamato's attacks. I don't think I have to explain why Sanji is far faster than Base X Drake.
Flame Off King isn't an FTE amp to his Flame On form. Base No Exo Sanji was already able to react to attacks from Flame On King. Exo Sanji being faster than his non-Exo form, and his amps with Jambes stacked with FTE amp Enhanced Speed makes him far faster than Flame Off King.
Flame Off King is around as fast, or a bit faster than No-Exo Diable Jambe Sanji.
DaMonkeMan
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What does that have to do with this fight
DaMonkeMan
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And Base Yamato could stop an attack from Hybrid Kaidou, lol.
Now you're just using stuff that isn't on the profiles at all, so I'm just gonna ignore this.
DaMonkeMan
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Base Yamato with ACoC. Who doesn't really scale to Kaidou outside of his base form.
Also it's just a durability feat for Aramaki lol
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... Read King's profile. It got recently revamped.
I don't think we say Yamato reacting to Kaidou lunging from afar and then striking to say that she could straight up react to an attack from him up close, especially when moments prior in her Hybrid, this happened.
DaMonkeMan
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Ah, I'll make a CRT for that later when I get my new computer then.
Yeah and G5 Luffy got hit by Hybrid Kaidou who was also lunging afar in the panel, but we still fully scale him to Kaidou, so this isn't really a good point.
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Luffy in far weaker forms already scales to/above Kaidou in speed, so this is kind of a moot point.
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Cool. Well as the profiles are right now, what I said earlier stands true.
DaMonkeMan
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This really isn't the point nor is it relevant to what I was saying but okay
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It is, as you're using Aramaki being able to catch an injured Flame Off King as a reason as to why he'd be able to react to Sanji's speed, which is false.
DaMonkeMan
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We were talking about his scaling to Yamato, dude, keep up.
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Your Gear 5 point is moot like I said. It's a very bad example due to Gear 5 Luffy already having prior scaling to/above Hybrid Kaidou, which BASE Yamato doesn't have.
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Voting Sanji FRA for now. Aramaki needs more feats and idk how tf he gonna catch Sanji when Sanji's far faster for now lol
DaMonkeMan
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Just do what Queen did and keep throwing attacks at him in multiple directions at the same time and eventually land a hit on him while he's dodging another.
If he does that, and Sanji has his exoskeleton off during it, he's cooked.
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The reason that strategy worked on Sanji was because his body was feeling off and he wasn't at his best.
DaMonkeMan
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Shouldn't stop him from dodging though.
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Stops him from effectively dodging due to Kenbun working best when the mind is calm.
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Even if that does work, Kachon already explained how that wont get gb the dub. Sanji's exo skeleton prevents him from getting impaled and his fire prevents gb from holding him down with his vines.
DaMonkeMan
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Yes, but that's if he activates the exoskeleton off the bat, which he so far doesn't really do.
All Aramaki needs to do is hold him down for about a second or two and pierce him with that plant, then it's over.
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It's really a difficult or impossible situation to happen considering that Sanji is faster, superior in kenbun and buso and still has elemental advantage.
DaMonkeMan
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I mean, as I said before, he's eventually going to tire out if he just keeps running from the plants constantly, for one.
For two, he will try to attack him sooner or later, and once that happens Aramaki can always just sneak a vine behind him and stab him in the back (or seem to be in agony from his fire and then stab him while he's celebrating, similar to his scuffle with Raizo).
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There's not enough instances of sanji seriously fighting post exoskeleton to build up a consistency
But based off what we've seen sanji can change his eyebrows in an instant, which he did against s-shark after he pissed him off.
If sanji feels threatened by greenbull chances are that he's going to use it, especially if greenbull manages to grab him.
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Sure sanji doesn't start off fights with exo skeleton, but with his observation haki he should be capable of sensing that gb is powerful.
He's more than willing to use it against S-shark who isn't really that much of a threat to him, so all gb needs to do is prove he's a threat and sanji will instantly use his exoskeleton.
He's more than willing to use it against S-shark who isn't really that much of a threat to him, so all gb needs to do is prove he's a threat and sanji will instantly use his exoskeleton.
DaMonkeMan
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True
Still voting Aramaki though because I kind of doubt Sanji would be able to put him down in time and know how dangerous the vines are (which may mean he doesn't think of the vines as dangerous, even if he can sense how powerful Aramaki himself is)
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Its hard to prove how people will act in character, all I can say is that sanji is a very analytical fighter that doesn't hesitate to fight seriously.
