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RWBY CRT Part 2: Oscar scaling

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Hello all,

I have today part 2 of the CRT's I plan to role out. Today, I want to make an argument on scaling the main cast to Oscar's shield directly. I believe that this makes sense for numerous reasons for which I'll explain in this post.

First things first, I want to posit that Oscar's current magic is well below that of a maiden's. Like, WELL WELL below. We know for a fact that Ozpin's magic is dwindling through the ages. He does not scale to the maidens in the slightest due to the large magic split he gave to the original maidens, as seen with this quote.

Ozpin: "As helpful as that might be, unfortunately, it is not that simple. My power is finite, and if I'm being honest, dwindling. The amount that I gifted to Qrow and Raven was, all things considered, rather miniscule. You see, centuries ago, I sacrificed a great deal of magic to four young women, who I hoped would use my gift for good. They were the first Maidens."

This is confirmed by a tweet by Eddy Rivas, writer of RWBY.





So not only did Ozpin sacrifice most of his magic during the split, but that his magic has continued to drain and dwindle during the centuries he's been alive. Again, he says that his magic is finite at this point. He can't recover more within himself. So every time he uses magic, it's permanently gone. This is notable because, in his fight against Cinder, he used a TON of magic. All that magic he used to meet Cinder blow for blow is now permanently gone, not to mention that he straight up died. So now Oscar is left with barely any magic left, not even enough to match a maiden. And yet, as we all know, his shield was still strong enough to protect him from the blow back against The Long Memory.

Now, let's look at his performance in the Salem fight, where he shoots a laser at her.



On it's own, it does nothing. Zilch. Nada. It causes her some pain, for sure, but nothing really skin scaring. Now let's look at Yang and what her bombs did.



She blow's Salem's chest wide open. Blood and gore spattered into the air. Yang also used these bombs against Vine and Elm too.



https://youtu.be/NyrIRKRqWrA?t=179

Both of their auras failed to shimmer or shatter against these massive blows, showing that they can take the blasts. Since Yang has fought and beaten them both, she scales to her bombs.
What I am saying is that Oscar's beam was shown to be not very effective against Salem while Yang's bombs were. Thus, the main cast should easily scale to his shield. Oscar's shield and beam come from the same finite magic pool from within. He's able to utilize it in two different ways. But it's still his magic at the end of the day.

A possible argument could be made that Oscar was simply "trying" harder making his shield rather than the beam, but I don't really buy it. Oscar, after being tortured by Salem for a whole day, surely knows how powerful she is. He wouldn't leave anything to chance and try and reserve himself. Especially when Salem has Yang in her grasp.

Another counter argument could be that this makes the main cast and the maidens on the same tier, so it doesn't make sense. First, we could simply say that the maidens massively upscale from the main cast. For example, we have Beerus and Goku both at 2-C, but narratively, Goku still hasn't fought a Beerus going all out. We could do the same here.

Overall, I would like this CRT to be given a fair shake, putting aside the maiden stuff and seeing if this logic makes sense. Thank you.
 
I see in those misc feats we are about to get ftl apathy and that needs to be cut from the freaking roots. Silver eye light curves, multiple times, already disqualifying it, but it also comes from an unnatural light source (eyes) and burns and petrifies creatures that can survive in normal sunlight. It makes no sense for that light to be counted as light speed. I am just mentioning that here since I’m pretty sure Rwby is at its crt limit. As soon as this thread is done I absolutely need to nuke every silver feat from orbit. It doesn’t matter for volume 8 and 9 though since they scale to Penny’s beams. I do want to get rid of Ironwood’s mega pistol somehow being a laser though.
 
I see in those misc feats we are about to get ftl apathy and that needs to be cut from the freaking roots. Silver eye light curves, multiple times, already disqualifying it, but it also comes from an unnatural light source (eyes) and burns and petrifies creatures that can survive in normal sunlight. It makes no sense for that light to be counted as light speed. I am just mentioning that here since I’m pretty sure Rwby is at its crt limit. As soon as this thread is done I absolutely need to nuke every silver feat from orbit. It doesn’t matter for volume 8 and 9 though since they scale to Penny’s beams. I do want to get rid of Ironwood’s mega pistol somehow being a laser though.
I think this belongs in the mega thread. Like I’m not saying they aren’t true, but for now, I’d rather start the conversation on the shield.
 
Yeah, I will save that for later, just saw that wanted to be used as support and it shouldn’t. For the shield alone I believe it should just scale to the long memory as other’s said on the last thread. But for personal time I’ll just wait for others like Glass and Curry since I think they also showed disagreement last thread.
 
Yeah, I will save that for later, just saw that wanted to be used as support and it shouldn’t. For the shield alone I believe it should just scale to the long memory as other’s said on the last thread. But for personal time I’ll just wait for others like Glass and Curry since I think they also showed disagreement last thread.
I thought the consensus on this thread was that Oscar’s shield was made on its own? Like, it doesn’t take the full yield of the blast because we account for the distance and the surface area.
 
That was a while ago when the maidens were made low 7-B last, I distinctly remember people like kingwolf were talking about changing it the last thread you had (and I think for good reason). So I will wait and see how that goes.
 
That was a while ago when the maidens were made low 7-B last, I distinctly remember people like kingwolf were talking about changing it the last thread you had (and I think for good reason). So I will wait and see how that goes.
The failsafe stuff is speculation tbh. The only real indication of anything different is the yellow lighting around the shield. Oscar says that all the cane did was release kinetic energy, which means the giant blast that killed the whale. He didn’t mention anything about amplifying it.
 
I see in those misc feats we are about to get ftl apathy and that needs to be cut from the freaking roots. Silver eye light curves, multiple times, already disqualifying it, but it also comes from an unnatural light source (eyes) and burns and petrifies creatures that can survive in normal sunlight. It makes no sense for that light to be counted as light speed. I am just mentioning that here since I’m pretty sure Rwby is at its crt limit. As soon as this thread is done I absolutely need to nuke every silver feat from orbit. It doesn’t matter for volume 8 and 9 though since they scale to Penny’s beams. I do want to get rid of Ironwood’s mega pistol somehow being a laser though.
Not the counter you think this is, heavily disagree with this but regardless not the point of the crt
 
Anyways, what you think of this CRT Dale?
Based on this comment
Don't have much for this thread but I will say that the shield and The Long Memory are two different things. We've seen Oscar create the shield completely by himself without need for the cane. Unless we have any statements the cane as stated by Oscar is only for storing and releasing kinetic energy as we saw with the explosion.
And the OP this should be fine since they are two seperate things
That’s not casual at all, if it was even true. Though it’s not, I rewatched the scene, that crater was naturally there. We cut to Neo seconds after she landed and there is no dust, debris, or steam to be seen anywhere. There wasn’t an explosion either.
Also I agree she didn't cause the crater but she did drop all this distance flying fast enough into the ground to have a heat cone and landed all with her aura broken as she fell. So eh it'd be casual
 
That'd be an egregious lowball considering she's falling fast enough to ignite air but yeah bare minimum I suppose
How fast do you have to be to get a heat cone around you? I'm wondering if we could use Neo's speed for any other impacts.
 
Neo is tiny, so I'm guessing that the impact would be like large building?
really depends on the how big the area she shook is tbh considering this would be the kind of shaking similar to that of a meteor impact due to how the shaking started if the range is anywhere from 100m or more then this could be an 8-A feat or higher
 
Add this to the op for supporting evidence

it took like all of the group working together to hold down a Maiden penny

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Couldn't that be used as a argument for downscaling. Hell, blake alone was able to hold her for a few seconds. given all of them workings together had to pull down against her flying up and struggling
 
really depends on the how big the area she shook is tbh considering this would be the kind of shaking similar to that of a meteor impact due to how the shaking started if the range is anywhere from 100m or more then this could be an 8-A feat or higher

We can possibly measure the distance from the Jabberwalker to Neo's location.
 
hey.
you can't just say you disagree and not explain why
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I’ll explain later, it’s 4:00 AM and the reason I sent that was to be like “I haven’t explained yet.”
 
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