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The Great Remnant Quest to Downgrade RWBY [Part 2] LIGHT SPEED MORE LIKE LIGHT PEE

Isn’t the logic of the second calc faulty considering the light has already touched everything in the room? The second the screen starts lighting up, Cinder has already been hit by the light. It’s just the bigger bang of magic that she seems to move alongside. The glow caused by Ruby has already touched her, as indicated by the screen being lighter.
 
Isn’t the logic of the second calc faulty considering the light has already touched everything in the room? The second the screen starts lighting up, Cinder has already been hit by the light. It’s just the bigger bang of magic that she seems to move alongside. The glow caused by Ruby has already touched her, as indicated by the screen being lighter.
No it has not watch the frame by frame the light that's coming out of rwby doesn't instantly cover the room
 
No it has not watch the frame by frame
I’m not talking about the blob of white coming from Ruby. I’m talking about the screen itself literally being white. As the pictures of your own calc show, the entire screen is lighter than it was before. You’re calculating Cinder moving against light that has already hit her, which doesn’t make sense to me.



The screen is lighter in the third pic than the first or second. Meaning the light has already hit everything in the room. Your calculation takes place after this and doesn’t make sense to me
 
Actually @
I’m not talking about the blob of white coming from Ruby. I’m talking about the screen itself literally being white. As the pictures of your own calc show, the entire screen is lighter than it was before. You’re calculating Cinder moving against light that has already hit her, which doesn’t make sense to me.



The screen is lighter in the third pic than the first or second. Meaning the light has already hit everything in the room. Your calculation takes place after this and doesn’t make sense to me

Ah if you're meaning that light effect then that wouldn't even make sense for us to considering the screen effect considering the moment the light hits Cinder her Grim arm would be completed ****** to the max as we saw, the actual light coming out of ruby hasn't remotely reached Cinder yet as she's completely unaffected and still attacking Jaune.

I'd rather take the actual white light coming out of her rather than the screen brightening effect here.

However for that I'll leave it up to CGMs to decide
 
In the calc used for them by Dalesean07 both scenes show NO one "dodging" this supposed light speed attack.
I’m not talking about the blob of white coming from Ruby. I’m talking about the screen itself literally being white. As the pictures of your own calc show, the entire screen is lighter than it was before. You’re calculating Cinder moving against light that has already hit her, which doesn’t make sense to me.



The screen is lighter in the third pic than the first or second. Meaning the light has already hit everything in the room. Your calculation takes place after this and doesn’t make sense to me


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Need opinions on the calculations themself and your thoughts on the above points
 
Actually @
Ah if you're meaning that light effect then that wouldn't even make sense for us to considering the screen effect considering the moment the light hits Cinder her Grim arm would be completed ****** to the max as we saw, the actual light coming out of ruby hasn't remotely reached Cinder yet as she's completely unaffected and still attacking Jaune.

I'd rather take the actual white light coming out of her rather than the screen brightening effect here.

However for that I'll leave it up to CGMs to decide
But the screen brightening is the entire reason it’s considered light in the first place? Why would the screen no brighten in an instant if it truly is documenting a light speed feat?

It takes a couple seconds of exposure for Grimm to get messed up by the silver eyes, and clearly the bigger blob of light that expands from Ruby is carrying a bulk of the magic. But the screen brightening effect is LITERALLY the result of light hitting everything. Otherwise it wouldn’t exist. There are rays of light coming off of Ruby well before the bigger blob expands from her.
 
There are two separate “light” sources on Ruby. She begins to glow, which immediately already means the light coming off of her is going outwards to fill the room and reflect off literally everything. She then glows harder until that glow encompasses the room.

There is a speed difference between the light from her glow and the glow itself, as the light fills the room well before the glow does.
 
God I hate imgur

Here's the scans, had to post them to Twitter because if I upload them to here they'll expire due to them being from discord

Okay, why is no one talking about this?
I'd upload them to imgur and put in a translation request here on wiki so that this is usable but yeah seems legit
 
Right away using Mazii I get this.


" "WEAPONフローティング・アレイ背中に格納された大量の剣を空中に浮遊させて遠隔操作し、敵の攻撃を防御する盾にしたり、束ねて銃に変型させて高出力の光線を放つことができる。また、付属のワイヤーで重い物体を引き寄せるなど、柔軟さと強靭さを併せ持つ。 "

" "WEAPON Floating Array A large number of swords stored on the back can be floated in the air and controlled remotely, used as a shield to defend against enemy attacks, or bundled together to transform into a gun and emit a high-power beam of light. . It also has both flexibility and strength, such as being able to pull heavy objects with the attached wire. "
 
Right away using Mazii I get this.


" "WEAPONフローティング・アレイ背中に格納された大量の剣を空中に浮遊させて遠隔操作し、敵の攻撃を防御する盾にしたり、束ねて銃に変型させて高出力の光線を放つことができる。また、付属のワイヤーで重い物体を引き寄せるなど、柔軟さと強靭さを併せ持つ。 " "WEAPONフローティング・アレイ背中に格納された大量の剣を空中に浮遊させて遠隔操作し、敵の攻撃を防御する盾にしたり、束ねて銃に変型させて高出力の光線を放つことができる。また、付属のワイヤーで重い物体を引き寄せるなど、柔軟さと強靭さを併せ持つ

" "WEAPON Floating Array A large number of swords stored on the back can be floated in the air and controlled remotely, used as a shield to defend against enemy attacks, or bundled together to transform into a gun and emit a high-power beam of light. . It also has both flexibility and strength, such as being able to pull heavy objects with the attached wire. " "WEAPON Floating Array A large number of swords stored on the back can be floated in the air and controlled remotely, used as a shield to defend against enemy attacks, or bundled together to transform into a gun and emit a high-power beam of light. . It also has both flexibility and strength, such as being able to pull heavy objects with the attached wire.
So it does say Penny's lasers are light and given the writers statement that the spider dorid, Ironwoods laser gun are also lasers like Penny's this means they are shooting out beams of light
 
So it does say Penny's lasers are light and given the writers statement that the spider dorid, Ironwoods laser gun are also lasers like Penny's this means they are shooting out beams of light
Yeah that seems pretty common from all the translations im getting so Penny's stuff should be usable as Light in calcs as well but still having a wiki translation would be the cherry on top
 
Yeah that seems pretty common from all the translations im getting so Penny's stuff should be usable as Light in calcs as well but still having a wiki translation would be the cherry on top
wow I wish you guys would have just sent this before cause that’s pretty blatant.

Anyways, I have no issues if they’re taken as light, my only other issue would be whether or not people in the vytal festival forward scale but that’s not my job.
 
wow I wish you guys would have just sent this before cause that’s pretty blatant.

Anyways, I have no issues if they’re taken as light, my only other issue would be whether or not people in the vytal festival forward scale but that’s not my job.
Yeah basically it's new information the previous thread didn't have due to that art book with information came out recently

I mean it's how we know the characters heights too
 
Uh no, if it's light it's light speed

Bc speed of light
Yes but I heard that if shows factors that disqualifies it from being like a laser, it can’t be light speed. Like something being light doesn’t make it light speed in a sense. If I make a hammer out of light and swing it, that swing isn’t LS.
 
Incorrect, something can be made of light and not be light speed if it is inconsistent enough in its showings. See the naval laser from MHA.
This kinda misses the point of the Spider-Droid laser being stated to be a particle beam which is SoL, if all the lasers from Atlas are stated the same and Pennys are also stated to be those kind of light based lasers that more than not act like real lasers as well there is no reason for it not to be SoL.

So no need to bring in other verses, seems kinda needlessly nit picky
 
I also want to say that the person who asked that laser question was me. It was back when I didn't know asking creators questions were frowned on. Being completely transparent here.
 
This kinda misses the point of the Spider-Droid laser being stated to be a particle beam which is SoL, if all the lasers from Atlas are stated the same and Pennys are also stated to be those kind of light based lasers that more than not act like real lasers as well there is no reason for it not to be SoL.

So no need to bring in other verses, seems kinda needlessly nit picky
I was addressing what was being said. Other verses show a standard. Something can be made of light and have enough inconsistencies to not move at light speed. That is a fact. Whether that is true or not of anything being mentioned here is irrelevant to me.
 
I was addressing what was being said. Other verses show a standard. Something can be made of light and have enough inconsistencies to not move at light speed. That is a fact. Whether that is true or not of anything being mentioned here is irrelevant to me.
Then what you're saying as whole in regards to that is irrelevant considering the other evidence coupled together here. So it makes less sense to bring up another verse here in the context of the wider evidence as a whole. Like I said needlessly nitpicky

I also want to say that the person who asked that laser question was me. It was back when I didn't know asking creators questions were frowned on. Being completely transparent here.
You mean for the translation(I see your name there)? There's nothing wrong with asking for a translation
 
Then what you're saying as whole in regards to that is irrelevant considering the other evidence coupled together here. So it makes less sense to bring up another verse here in the context of the wider evidence as a whole. Like I said needlessly nitpicky


You mean for the translation(I see your name there)? There's nothing wrong with asking for a translation
I’m not about to get into a pissing match with you cause you’re upset I don’t like your calc, Dale.
 
Then what you're saying as whole in regards to that is irrelevant considering the other evidence coupled together here. So it makes less sense to bring up another verse here in the context of the wider evidence as a whole. Like I said needlessly nitpicky


You mean for the translation(I see your name there)? There's nothing wrong with asking for a translation
I asked for the translation too but I was the one who asked the question that Keirsie is responding too.
 
I’m not about to get into a pissing match with you cause you’re upset I don’t like your calc, Dale.
What are you even on about my guy? I'm talking about you being needlessly nitpicky on one aspect of the arguments of Penny's lasers. As far as my calc goes I'm leaving that to others so if you're feeling some way about that then you need to take a step back cause apparently you're the only one getting heated here. If we can't just have a regular talk here then that's on you cause I've said nothing rude to you or haven't expressed any ill will
 
What are you even on about my guy? I'm talking about you being needlessly nitpicky on one aspect of the arguments of Penny's lasers. As far as my calc goes I'm leaving that to others so if you're feeling some way about that then you need to take a step back cause apparently you're the only one getting heated here. If we can't just have a regular talk here then that's on you cause I've said nothing rude to you or haven't expressed any ill will
My comment wasn’t about Penny’s lasers specifically in the first place if you were looking at what I was responding to. Spin said “no, if it’s light it is light speed” which is a false statement as has been set by the wiki. Something can be made of light, and if it has inconsistencies, not be light speed. I made no statement for whether that applied to Penny’s lasers or not, I was commenting on what was said in a general sense because the statement itself was general. Then you come in and call my comment irrelevant when I’m clearly addressing something.

Regardless, I will only be commenting on the second calc further. I don’t much care for the verse’s speed feats.
 
Wolves was bringing up an example of when a verse does not accept something stated as light to be light speed, I don’t see anything wrong with that.
 
My comment wasn’t about Penny’s lasers specifically in the first place if you were looking at what I was responding to. Spin said “no, if it’s light it is light speed” which is a false statement as has been set by the wiki. Something can be made of light, and if it has inconsistencies, not be light speed. I made no statement for whether that applied to Penny’s lasers or not, I was commenting on what was said in a general sense because the statement itself was general. Then you come in and call my comment irrelevant when I’m clearly addressing something.
I understand that it is completely nitpicky since you're only addressing that alone is isolation to try and talk against it


WoG says all laser weapons from Atlas use the same laser technology

WoG says the lasers are particle beam lasers

WoG says the lasers are light based


You're going in on the light being light while ignoring the other evidence as a whole is inherently nitpicky when its not some single statement in isolation
 
I understand that it is completely nitpicky since you're only addressing that alone is isolation to try and talk against it


WoG says all laser weapons from Atlas use the same laser technology

WoG says the lasers are particle beam lasers

WoG says the lasers are light based


You're going in on the light being light while ignoring the other evidence as a whole is inherently nitpicky when its not some single statement in isolation
This is where you are incorrect because I AM NOT REFERRING TO THE RWBY VERSE.

I said GENERALLY that just because something is light does not mean it moves at light speed as a response to Spin’s comment that because something is light that it must be light speed.

Your inability to understand my point and belittle it and myself as “nitpicky” is ridiculous and childish.
 
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