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I have already done so with their wiki account and forum account.
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This user, Slenderlyn666, has since April been spamming the walls of several users and staff members including Kachon123, KingTempest, DemonGodMitchAubin, Antvasima, and myself. The message are always invariably the same in linking to some other powerscaling YouTuber and framing his messages in being warnings and trying to get our attention on this powerscaler's One Piece takes.
He also kept spamming the One Piece Talk page for a while. Despite being warned numerous times by Antvasima and myself that we really don't care and that he should stop this, and after banning him for a week when he wouldn't listen, the user continues to add more messages now to other people's walls.
I'm seeking permission to administer a lengthier punishment since this user is incapable of listening to us telling him to stop spreading this.
He also kept spamming the One Piece Talk page for a while. Despite being warned numerous times by Antvasima and myself that we really don't care and that he should stop this, and after banning him for a week when he wouldn't listen, the user continues to add more messages now to other people's walls.
I'm seeking permission to administer a lengthier punishment since this user is incapable of listening to us telling him to stop spreading this.
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At some point, incessant pestering like this tends to fall at least in the vicinity of harassment, as we ruled similarly in the Pokemonfan situation. It doesn't help that he's also done this to the Talk page of the VS Battles Staff, which is arguably even more inappropriate.
In the same way, his pestering is not, at least, as far-reaching or insidious as PF's was, so it does feel a shame to ban people for it. Still, I'd agree with a lengthier ban, perhaps a month or two. Maybe the message sticks that nobody gives a shit, and that it is inappropriate to aggressively engage with people like so, or maybe he just goes to another wiki that will listen to his ramblings. Either way, you have my support.
In the same way, his pestering is not, at least, as far-reaching or insidious as PF's was, so it does feel a shame to ban people for it. Still, I'd agree with a lengthier ban, perhaps a month or two. Maybe the message sticks that nobody gives a shit, and that it is inappropriate to aggressively engage with people like so, or maybe he just goes to another wiki that will listen to his ramblings. Either way, you have my support.
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Part of me wonders if there’s a language barrier at play here cus the guy isn’t even attempting to respond to what others are saying.
Him: “look at this”
Someone: “hey stop that nobody cares”
Him: “btw, look at this”
Someone: “read above”
Him: “look at this”
Like it’s not even engaging.. regardless, this becomes an issue when it occurs x100… so I can also stand behind a month ban.
Him: “look at this”
Someone: “hey stop that nobody cares”
Him: “btw, look at this”
Someone: “read above”
Him: “look at this”
Like it’s not even engaging.. regardless, this becomes an issue when it occurs x100… so I can also stand behind a month ban.
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Pokemonfan's ban was for a year iirc.
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Pokemonfan was worse, imo. I'm hoping this is an individual not so determined, and his behavior is far removed from the depth of PF's. I do not want to replicate PF's ban, therefore, I merely cite it as a similar case.
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I'd like to report @Hasty12345 antagonistic behavior towards me via the following comment:
vsbattles.com
while this certainly isn't the first time he has attacked me or others personally, this came after I explicitly told him NOT to do it or else I would report him, given that I make a conscious effort to not attack him personally even during a heated rant against his terrible arguments. That's all.
Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
and I'm asking you to substantiate that with some reasoning. why can it not apply to the works i just mentioned? where exactly does the problem arise for us to not consider this option?
while this certainly isn't the first time he has attacked me or others personally, this came after I explicitly told him NOT to do it or else I would report him, given that I make a conscious effort to not attack him personally even during a heated rant against his terrible arguments. That's all.
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You have stalked my whole career on this site, please go find these other instances.
Obviously, calling him brain dead wasn't the right thing to do and you can see I pushed him to make this report by repeating it, However, I don't think he's aware of the hurtful nature of his own comments.
My comments were in response to @Ryzen7900X attacking my intelligence here:
Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
When she talks to Shoichiro and Sojiro after their fight
Where I responded with (I think) a fairly obvious joke, calling out the fact he called me "really really dumb" with a sly response.
The conversation started with passive aggressiveness towards me, pushing me to argue with him over something I exclaimed no less than 3 times I don't care about and my intent was made clear. Even after clarifying my initial comment starting the conversation and the general indication he thinks I'm dumb by referring to Patrick memes and general "talking down" tone.
I will accept any punishment, but my actions weren't unprovoked, and despite his comment saying he's only attacked my arguments, this is provably not the case.
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That doesn't work Hasty. You're the one who made the original claim to presuppose that you're dumb. My only options were to either say what I did, which presupposes that you're dumb, or explain the entire argument again which is what you wanted, which also presupposes that you're dumb. The condition exists in either case, you seem to be trying to "trap" me by putting words in my mouth I never said.You have stalked my whole career on this site, please go find these other instances.
Obviously, calling him brain dead wasn't the right thing to do and you can see I pushed him to make this report by repeating it, However, I don't think he's aware of the hurtful nature of his own comments.
My comments were in response to @Ryzen7900X attacking my intelligence here:
Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
When she talks to Shoichiro and Sojiro after their fight
Where I responded with (I think) a fairly obvious joke, calling out the fact he called me "really really dumb" with a sly response.
The conversation started with passive aggressiveness towards me, pushing me to argue with him over something I exclaimed no less than 3 times I don't care about and my intent was made clear. Even after clarifying my initial comment starting the conversation and the general indication he thinks I'm dumb by referring to Patrick memes and general "talking down" tone.
I will accept any punishment, but my actions weren't unprovoked, and despite his comment saying he's only attacked my arguments, this is provably not the case.
So respectfully, you're the only one insulting your own intelligence and calling yourself really really dumb here. Not me, not anyone else. Me referring to the Patrick meme template, as I explained before, was expressly due to the circular nature of your argument that fits well with the meme, not some perceived notion of calling you dumb or whatever which I'll remind you again were your words.
Also, you'd do well to not invoke something as vague as the "hurtful nature of my comments" (which, by design and unlike yours, lack personal attacks) when your own comments of constant antagonism towards the DB fandom is more hurtful than anything I've said here. Put simply you do not have the room to talk about this
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We consider insults directed to a person to be more grievous than insults directed to a person’s arguments.
In this case, you are both throwing personal attacks, but I will say that Ryzen was the first to initiate the hostilities (with the Patrick comment) and continued to maintain hostility until hasty lashed back with a comment that was notably worse than anything said by Ryzen.
So basically, Ryzen started it and continued hostilities, but Hasty’s eventual lash back seemed way worse.
Ryzen, as for this:
All things considered though, Ryzen’s comments aren’t as bad as that one by Hasty, but the fact that Ryzen was more consistent with his hostility is a factor as well. I can stand behind a warning for both users.
Needless to say….. this continued hostility in the RVR:
In this case, you are both throwing personal attacks, but I will say that Ryzen was the first to initiate the hostilities (with the Patrick comment) and continued to maintain hostility until hasty lashed back with a comment that was notably worse than anything said by Ryzen.
So basically, Ryzen started it and continued hostilities, but Hasty’s eventual lash back seemed way worse.
Ryzen, as for this:
Absolutely not. There is no way you couldn’t tell that he was being sarcastic. That’s extremely obvious. Even based on your subsequent responses and the earlier comment about Patrick it is very clear that you didn’t think he was literally calling himself stupid (tf? Why would anyone do that)
All things considered though, Ryzen’s comments aren’t as bad as that one by Hasty, but the fact that Ryzen was more consistent with his hostility is a factor as well. I can stand behind a warning for both users.
Needless to say….. this continued hostility in the RVR:
Needs to stop. Listen to what Deagon said. It’ll make this easier for all of us.
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As I said before, the Patrick meme template comments were NOT my attempt to call him dumb without saying it explicitly. It was ONLY to emphasize how circular his argument (and Stek's too whom I have nothing against) really was
If referring to memes as a means to express the ridiculousness of an argument is wrong, then I happily concede that I'm wrong on this one. But please do not misrepresent my intention there. (Also I'm cutting out parts of the comment not directed at me to make this short).
Of course no one would call themselves stupid. That's not the problem though. Even if I had done as he said and repeated the argument, by the very nature of his comment I still would've presupposed that he's dumb. However, since he wouldn't have complained or taken offense in that latter case, it seems to me that his actual gripe isn't that I called him dumb (which I didn't) but the simple fact that I refused to engage with his request. If that's the case, his initial report about me attacking personally is rendered invalid. Put simply, if his gripe is the fact that I didn't deny his statement of calling himself dumb (as his report suggests), the only way for me to make sure that didn't happen was if I enthusiastically denied his claim similar to my exaggerated comment.
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I deleted the vast majority of their message wall and blog post messages. Feel free to ban them for 2 months if you wish.
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BumpI'd like to report @Hasty12345 antagonistic behavior towards me via the following comment:
Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
and I'm asking you to substantiate that with some reasoning. why can it not apply to the works i just mentioned? where exactly does the problem arise for us to not consider this option?
while this certainly isn't the first time he has attacked me or others personally, this came after I explicitly told him NOT to do it or else I would report him, given that I make a conscious effort to not attack him personally even during a heated rant against his terrible arguments. That's all.
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I agree with what Catzaflame has said on the matter.
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This should be in wiki vandalism thread tho.
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Ah, my mistake. I tend to mistake the two threads.
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I know that I wasn't here when this report was put through, and I know this isn't the place, but thank you for reporting em
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Do you think that this member is Vonkey, who has instigated a harrassment campaign against you, or an associate of his? If so, I think that we should permanently ban him. There is a proper way of revising our statistics, and social media harrassment is not the right way to do so.
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I'd say quite the opposite. This seems like someone that really does not like VonKey and is doing this as a means of "warning us," even though this level of mass harassment is completely unacceptable
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That seems super doubtful from what I can tell. I don't see why they'd do all that
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Well, he apparently tried to get KingTempest's attention through harrassment right after we banned that account, and seems to want to force us to change the One Piece statistics through harrassment rather than legitimate means, and if we engage in any public debates with him, he will likely publish distorted versions of them in his YouTube channel in order to get more viewers through "street cred".
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I mean all that's just typical YouTube powerscaler stuff, compared to the oddity that is this wave of messages that you all have been receiving. It's clear what VonKey's intentions are: initiating a voice channel debate with KingTempest about One Piece's current stats. And I fully agree that indulging this is a bad idea, for pretty much the same reasons you just mentioned (I anticipate it'd result in a distorted "I BODIED VS Battles Wiki's staff team" video that would only serve to initiate harassment toward our users). I just don't think the message wall spam is VonKey's doing - rather, it's someone who clearly doesn't like him, but also is engaging in mass harassment themselves via the message wall spam.
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No, I definitely don't think it's the YouTuber themselves.
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He's not Vonkey.
I messaged him on discord to confront him about the YT situation and about the user. He confirmed that same person harrassed him as well
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This should be reported to the Wiki vandalism thread.
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It seems like things in that thread are getting very heated in general.
While their comments are only insulting your thread, rather than you as a person, they are certainly worded in a rude and unproductive way.
I don't think any official warnings or punishments are needed yet, but I will make a post urging everyone to remain civil.
If this thread continues to be this widely hostile though, it would probably be better to close it.
If that happens, and this is an important topic, it's possible for you to get in contact with a staff member who is knowledgeable and prepare a staff thread about it instead.
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Regarding the Hasty/Ryzen issue. I’ve reviewed the latest replies, and my stance remains the same. DDM agrees with me, and it doesn’t seem like anyone else is gonna comment, so that oughta be a consensus.
@Hasty12345 @Ryzen7900X I’m not tryna be amini-mod dickface, but this place tries to avoid toxicity as much as possible, and the staff gotta regulate that. Consider this an official warning.
@Hasty12345 @Ryzen7900X I’m not tryna be a
My stance is the same as Finepoint; those comments arent really in violation of anny rules.
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Well it seems I sniped you in this thread, and you sniped me in that one, lmao.
I suppose they should've really gotten the message now.
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