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Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 2.5 of ?????)
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marvel gods are getting a thread of its own for Part 3 by Ultima so best to leave it alone until part 3 drops
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Yes, I’m aware. The characters still need to have their tiers updated in the meantime.
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Looking over the characters that are left, the Hell Lords can be left alone until Part 3 since their current scaling is really bad they scale off of Mephisto and Satannish’s 2-C feat, but Old King Thor and Gorr should be changed to High 3-A and Seth and Khonshu should be changed to High 1-B ig.
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I just noticed that OKT and Gorr were updated, so unless I missed something, I think we’re done here?
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Er... Guys, i mean, this reasoning in seth profile isn't about Set(h) the God, it's rather about Set the Elder God.
Seth the egyptian god tried to steal the image of the Elder God, but the serpent across every reality is an aspect of Set actually, no Set(h). I think this justification should just be removed from this profile, and passed on to the real Set. In fact, Ultima has elaborated in past threads on another aspect of the Set (The Elder God) that surpassed the celestials as well (which is the abyss).
Seth the egyptian god tried to steal the image of the Elder God, but the serpent across every reality is an aspect of Set actually, no Set(h). I think this justification should just be removed from this profile, and passed on to the real Set. In fact, Ultima has elaborated in past threads on another aspect of the Set (The Elder God) that surpassed the celestials as well (which is the abyss).
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Here Seth stealing the name, title, worshippers, and even the image of the Elder God Set.
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Save it for the next part of the CRT, since the gods will be getting new justifications there.
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@Ultima_Reality
The speed levels are currently an inconsistent and incoherent mess. Are you willing to check through and try to fix them please?
See here for example:
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The speed levels are currently an inconsistent and incoherent mess. Are you willing to check through and try to fix them please?
See here for example:
Dormammu (Classic)
The ages fall away! The rule of law is stripped from the bones of the world! A new will grips the earth, the sky, the aether! My will!Dormammu Dormammu is the ruler of the Dark Dimension and the archenemy of Doctor Strange. After he and his sister Umar killed their own father in their home...
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Doctor Strange (Marvel Comics)
Stephen Vincent Strange is the Sorcerer Supreme of the Earth Dimension. Once a materialistic and greedy neurosurgeon, Strange's medical career was left in pieces after a debilitating car accident which severely damaged the nerves of his hands and made him unable to ever conduct an operation...
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Umar
*Sigh* Dormammu, must you always put things so melodramatically? Umar is the twin sister of Dormammu and a recurring foe of Doctor Strange. Umar and her brother were exiled from the Faltinian dimension after they killed their father, and the two eventually came across the Dark Dimension. The...
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Clea (Marvel Comics)
Clea is the daughter of Umar the Unrelenting and one of the citizens of the dark dimension, called the Mhuruuks, making her half Faltine/half Mhuruuk. She is also the niece of Dormammu and the former wife and apprentice of Doctor Strange. Clea has used her magical abilities as a member of the...
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Jaspers scales to his own 2-C feats, and Fury scales to him. They’re fine unless the cosmology changes would upgrade them.
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Pretty sure numbered universes are now treated as Eternities
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So um, yeah:
- According to this guidebook statement, as well as this one, Franklin's powers are indeed a threat to the Multiverse according to the Captain Britain storyline that takes place before the Abraxas Arc, which if we look at when this happened, it was in the same storyline / volume that introduced the idea of the Multiverse being Multi-Eternity with Abraxas Arc, which happens in the same volume quite a few issues away.
- So I decided to re-read the comic to give context to the above guidebook statements. One such thing that comes up is that Roma explicitly states that Franklin's power gives him the power to destroy Everything. Now, once again, without context 'Everything' is just fluff, but when the above guidebooks discussing the events specifically talk about him being a danger to the Multiverse/Omniverse, and that he might destroy the Multiverse/Omniverse, it's safe to assume that 'Everything' here means well, Creation itself, or the Multiverse/Omniverse.
- Another such thing that comes up is the fact that Franklin's powers have never been achieved by any finite being before prior to now. This makes sense considering what the above is implicating and how much of a threat it is implied that Franklin is.
- Eternity & Infinity explicitly show up to dictate how much of a serious threat Franklin actually is.
- Abraxas Arc Franklin does in fact harm Multiversal Eternity when reviving Galactus from his Heart.
- Him being 'on par' / 'in the same league' / 'on the same level' with The Celestials is not an anti-feat in the slightest. We've seen The Celestials having varying degrees of portrayals throughout Marvel, even High 1-A ones.
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Very convenient since we got the Onslaught CRT going on rn too
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So both The Fury and James Jaspers gets High 1-B scailing.
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Btw, I saw this (from Thor (2020) #32):
So it says that magic is "The mystical, invisible transactions that pull and push power like currents through the realms".
When it refers to the realms (aka the 9 realms), it's not referring to Yggdrasil as a whole, right, just those universes?
So it says that magic is "The mystical, invisible transactions that pull and push power like currents through the realms".
When it refers to the realms (aka the 9 realms), it's not referring to Yggdrasil as a whole, right, just those universes?
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It's Ten Realms, but yup, it seems like itBtw, I saw this (from Thor (2020) #32):
So it says that magic is "The mystical, invisible transactions that pull and push power like currents through the realms".
When it refers to the realms (aka the 9 realms), it's not referring to Yggdrasil as a whole, right, just those universes?
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I need this for the sandbox for Marvel Magic being smurf hax.
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Yes
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Oh thank God.
4-D hax is usable, High 1-A stuff for just standard magic would be rejected by the staff in 0.000002 attoseconds.
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Could you please send here the sandbox? Just out of curiosity
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Remove /revision/ and everything after from the links.
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Marvel Comics: Magic Explanation and P&A Page
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Hmmm. I'll see to that, if it hasn't been done already.
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I dropped the whole math thing for the moment, if you recall, so, adding Resistance to Mathematics Manipulation can probably come later. The Information thing should only apply to beings of the Mystery.
Overall, those minor details that I missed are for future, smaller, CRTs.
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I see, makes sense.
Though for math stuff, i know, BUT that was only for tiering, the whole seed that transcends mathematics is still a thing in the comic lore, but anyway i understand if you want to live that out for now.
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Btw, I know all the Elder Gods (Set, Chthon, Gaea, etc.) will be High 1-A, but do you plan on making profiles for them in the future?
Also, you said the Chaos Wave (which Chthon scales above) is High 1-A, how is that?
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Any thoughts, anyone?Marvel Comics: Magic Explanation and P&A Page
It's far from finished but there is a lot of potential, and Ultima is helping with the "Potency" section, like the Low 1-A stuff.
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It sounds really good.
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When will part 3 come?
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