Resistance to ToonForce for Beerus

[Antvasima]

Okay. I suppose that we should probably not accept this then.

 

[AKM sama]

If we go by the statement alone, then it's pretty concrete that her gag stuff won't work on Beerus.

But one can always say that she did not use it in the first place.

Basically it is a situation where there is a statement implying something, with a lack of feat to support it.

I am neutral on that, but the whole episode was orchestrated in such a way that the intention was quite clear and concrete. (Vegeta and Goku having problems with her gag stuff, but Beerus arrives and it is said that her gag stuff won't work on him)

 

[ArmBill]

@Aeyu All of her "shenanigans" through out the episode was just her fighting everyone. The context is pretty obviously about using her toonforce on beerus.

@matt Not all of her gags are physical base though. So if beerus was just stronger and not resistant then she could of easily abused that.

 

[fandom_22Easy]

I think "Possible resistence to Toon Force" should work seeing as Goku is clearly referring to her toonforce not working on Beerus. Arale is strong enough to fight SSB, so Goku should have no reason to think her toonforce wouldn't work on Beerus unless there's an inherent resistence of some sort.

 

[RolyPolyDuctTape]

From what I've seen beerus is most definitely resistant to toonforce.

 

[Kepekley23]

I agree with AKM.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

One thing though.

If we do add the resistance, only Beerus is getting this right? Or are all the other gods suddenly going to get it as well?

 

[Quantu]

AKM said it perfectly.

 

[AKM sama]

Only Beerus, because Goku did not use the word "hakaishin" to refer to a particular group of individuals. He was just referring to one individual and he never mentioned anything about Beerus' position having to do anything with it.

That's my opinion.

 

[Antvasima]

Personally I can see both interpretations as plausible. It might have been due to raw power and it may have been due to resistance.

 

[fandom_22Easy]

That's why I'm proposing a "possible resistence" or maybe even "likely resistence"

 

[Antvasima]

Possible resistance seems like the best compromise solution, yes.

 

[Quantu]

So something along the lines of:

Possibly Resistance to Toon Force (Goku stated Arale's powers would not work on him, although it is uncertain if he referred to her raw power or toon force abilities)

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine to me.

 

[Antvasima]

Possibly Resistance to Toon Force (Goku stated that Arale's abilities would not work on him, although it is uncertain if this was due to Beerus' superior raw power or an innate resistance)

 

[Omimi]

answer the question first

how does goku know what can affect beerus or not ?

 

[fandom_22Easy]

answer the question first
how does goku know what can affect beerus or not ?

He's trained with him for several years and is an extremely experienced fighter who can tell the weaknesses and strengths of opponents by looking at them/interacting with them. How much more information do we need?

 

[Thundereld]

Goku doesn't even know Arale's true limits and applications of Arale's gag powers.His words aren't enough to confirm Beerus' resistance and the power difference between the two.

 

[Dark649]

I added it, Goku has more dumb intelligence moment in Super than the other series, he mainly proved to be intelligent, mainly in battle in Z.

 

[Kepekley23]

I agree with a compromise.

 

[Antvasima]

Since the suggestion has been added should we close this thread?

 

[Dark649]

Yes.

 

[ArmBill]

Yeah