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The only Retsuden feats that will be removed are the Naruto ones. Since he was heavily weakened and there's a solid chance he could've preemptively dodged most of them.Will the justifications for the novel retsuden be removed from how they are now, and a Sub-relativistic for Orochimaru and Relativistic for Naruto base will be used?
So are we just going to put New Era Orochimaru at rela or we will also do it for Hiruzen?
There's 2 endsIsn't the value 0.55c?
Can you tell me the chapter again?First, @M3X said the Japanese version never said dodge, can you please drop that?
The time frame now
Time: 0.0000000027s
This is FTL reactions, 1.23x FTL
Reaction speed has both a distance and a timeframe component, so all calculations that are completed for reaction speed cannot simply be a timeframe by itself.
Reaction speed is defined as a single movement in a defined timeframe, which a character has been shown capable of.
I think it will be 3Can you tell me the chapter again?
The first one is from Chapter 2, the second is at the tail end of Chapter 3Can you tell me the chapter again?
Naruto has 3 feats, the scan of last one was sent here, the enemy notices him distracted and shoots him with a gun that shoots photon beams. Naruto was distracted at the time of the shooting, and even so he dodge, this feat is not questionable like the others you approached at the OP. And there is also the fact that he fought physically with Orochimaru and keep up with him.The only Retsuden feats that will be removed are the Naruto ones. Since he was heavily weakened and there's a solid chance he could've preemptively dodged most of them.
Orochimaru's thing is straightforward and the other Rel stuff I never questioned. Scaling people to Sub-Rel through Orochimaru seems... complicated and probab needs a CRT for that one.
ThanksFor the first image, I went r*tarded mode and misread the thing. In english, it says "The laser beam, without curvature", in portuguese, it's said "the beam, without dodging/deviating/moving(?)". It's talking about how the laser went straight towards Naruto. My bad.
I agree to this and this should definitely disprove the notion of him being weak as "average human"Naruto has 3 feats, the scan of last one was sent here, the enemy notices him distracted and shoots him with a gun that shoots photon beams. Naruto was distracted at the time of the shooting, and even so he dodge, this feat is not questionable like the others you approached at the OP. And there is also the fact that he fought physically with Orochimaru and keep up with him.
If Orochimaru's feat is accepted, the sick Naruto will scale anyway.
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Eu concordo com isso e isso deve definitivamente refutar a noção de que ele é fraco como "humano médio"
Uma vez que parece consistente, mais a parte de esmagamento do meteoro
He has mostly one, with one people keep cutting out the previous sentence of him remembering how the beams work and likely dodging before it fired and the other one being vague enough to be either way.Naruto has 3 feats
Wasn't a meteor and it was after what was weakening Naruto for the book's plot was damaged.Since it looks consistent plus the meteor smashing part
At no point in their fight did Orochimaru want to seriously battle Naruto. He just wanted to get rid of who was trying to kill him, which he did.And there is also the fact that he fought physically with Orochimaru and keep up with him.
I'm talking about Naruto's own feat youdumbass
Orochimaru was fighting seriously, there is nothing to prove that he was not serious. He wanted to kill the enemy at anyway. As his intention was to kill the enemy, would make no sense that he would not go to the maximum of his physical capacity to deal with Naruto, because if he really was much superior as you suggest, he would deal with Naruto without problems, it isn't happened, he had to appeal to Ninjutsu because he was not able to beat Naruto only in Taijutsu.At no point in their fight did Orochimaru want to seriously battle Naruto. He just wanted to get rid of who was trying to kill him, which he did.
I think the biggest problem with this calculation is to assume that Naruto made a whole move before the laser hit him, and to avoid this, he would only have to move half of his head.Ok so the following rating will be applied "Relativistic+, with FTL reactions"
Then why was it stated that falling debris would kill Naruto if he's physically as strong as usual?And Naruto being without the ability to use the chakra doesn't mean that he is on the level of an commom human. It is mentioned in the manga that it is not necessary to use chakra to effect taijutsu movements (running, kicking, punching, dodging and etc ...), they directly use stamina to do this, as in Lee's case, only in some cases he uses chakra, which is when he open the gates. Lee is extremely fast and strong without using chakra, he uses only his own stamina and physical strength, and we know that he is far above an commom human. So any "inconsistency" you guys try to point out here is not a valid argument, since Naruto is basically in the same condition as Lee, without using chakra, but still has his natural physical power.
This is not a problem, it's literally what happened. Naruto didn't move his head to dodge the beam, not only that. He also moved his body to do that. And this is already a lowball, considering I used the distance between Madara and Naruto, and not the distance between Naruto and the beam.I think the biggest problem with this calculation is to assume that Naruto made a whole move before the laser hit him, and to avoid this, he would only have to move half of his head.
Either we use anime to calculate, or we use half of his head to find the distance he crossed to avoid this.