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I also agree with both Retsuden laser-related content being removed from New Era Naruto and the god-tiers having "FTL combat and reaction speed" based off of the Light Fang.
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Removal of the Naruto Retsuden laser justification
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"Although he was able to easily deflect the laser's beam"
what about this from the novel
Orochimaru easily deflecting LS? Interesting
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Well guess that goes into the weirdly good New Era Orochimaru speed feats folder.
Might be reason to scale him to the Rel ratings most of the Upper Tiers have.
Might be reason to scale him to the Rel ratings most of the Upper Tiers have.
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The beam is, deflecting it isn't since that doesn't require matching the beams speed.
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As for the rating Orochimaru should scale... I'd say Sub-Relativistic. We don't have much context about the feat itself, so we can't really assume anything like Relativistic or Relativistic+. Generally, some feats with Lightspeed attacks ends up being at least Sub-Relativistic, unless it's like, Kizaru kicking some people and they being able to move their eyes, wich ended being MHS+, high end.
Sub-Relativistic might be good I think.
Sub-Relativistic might be good I think.
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I haven't read the entire of the novel, but i'm leaning towards disagreeing from the things i've seen.
OP argues Naruto = human levels based off statements and hypothesis, when feats say otherwise. Naruto literally destroys a meteor can anyone show me regular civilians doing this?
Naruto dodged the laser here straight up, there is no windup speed he reacts to.
OP argues Naruto = human levels based off statements and hypothesis, when feats say otherwise. Naruto literally destroys a meteor can anyone show me regular civilians doing this?
I mean come on, OP's literally using civilian gossip to justify his claims.
Naruto dodged the laser here straight up, there is no windup speed he reacts to.
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He didn't actually. The portuguese translation says "Without dodging..."
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That's after Sasuke, Naruto, and Sakura damage the satellite containing particles that was nerfing Naruto for the entire novel. Right after he used a Rasengan to demolish some debris and he's back to his previous power levels.
You left out the previous passage which says this
He knew it was firing and what it was. He also dodges it by tilting a motorcycle that he was using because he could no longer run that fast.
EDIT: Oh I guess he just never dodged it and it just missed.
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Send the portuguese scan, I can translate it, its my main language
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I literally translated that lmao, it's my first language too
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So Naruto despite being civilian level can still damage the meteor and do rasengans?
I can't leave out anything if I didn't know about it.
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Portuguese: Even though he was dominated by sneezing that didn’t stop, orochimaru reacted quickly and jumped to the right side, despite having managed to react easily to the laser beam, there was a drone in the direction he dodged and the propeller cut his shoulder, it shouldn’t have been a significant damage, but orochimaru's look showed the feeling of humiliation
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It was a satellite that was dumping the particles that was weakening Naruto. Sasuke had damaged it with his sword which started to destroy the stuff that were messing with Naruto and afterwards it was finally destroyed which completely fixed Naruto.
That's.... after the satellite was destroyed. So its a completely normal Naruto like I said.
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In addition to the feats mentioned here, Naruto has a third feat in this novel, during chapter 3, an enemy takes advantage of Naruto's distraction and shoots him with a gun who can fired photon beams, and he did it without any difficulty (The words "without difficulty" aren't hyperbole on my part, this is really mentioned in the Portuguese translation).
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was he still depowered at this point?
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At that point he should be
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this?
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Also, what is the novel? I forgot
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Well that's vague enough to he blocked it before it had fired but I can see how it can go either way.
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Yes, I can bring the scan in Portuguese if you want.
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Okay so
- New Era Orochimaru gets a Sub-Rel rating for the block
- We drop the Naruto laser stuff
- God Tiers scale to M3X's calc
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that would be a good idea
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Yes
this?
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Yeah, but we should probably wait for Damage's input. I'm sure he has a thing or two to say about all of this lol.
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