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Transformers got downgraded? I thought it was only universal?
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Is there actual proof of infinite universes? We need a number for anything higher than Low 2-CXDragnoir said:The fact the higher dimensions have objects which Curtana can cut isn't enough proof of "non-insignificant" size? Then can we just move to what will be the tier of the downgraded Magic Gods? I think 2B or 2A are the best options we have, L2C being a massive downplay, and what will happen with the downgraded powers like Accel's Vector Shield and Aleister's Blasting Rod they will be Space-Time skills now?
But I was not arguing that , I was saying that at least they should encompass the lower dimensions (so at least same size as the universe for the 4th and the 5th would encompass the 4th ,etc) and have to be physical , if u look above some people were saying "it's a sub space" or "they are small"Matthew Schroeder said:A universe having more than 3 dimensions =/= dimensions being each infinitely larger than the previous.
cool Low 2-C feat thoMatthew Schroeder said:I'm pretty sure that the Magic Gods being able to destroy the universe by stepping in it has nothing to do with dimensions.
The whole point of the Magic Gods destroying it is that they are far too big to inhabit that space in the first place, hence needing to inhabit the hidden world that they made.Matthew Schroeder said:I'm pretty sure that the Magic Gods being able to destroy the universe by stepping in it has nothing to do with dimensions.
Is there actually any definitive proof as to why the downgrade is being pushed, or is it just for the sake of it? The whole reasoning in the first place was that supposedly, the higher dimensions of toaru were not of a non-insignificant size, which we've all presented evidence to quite the contrary (Curtana's nature, the MG's using them to alter the whole world). So as of right now, is there any definitive reason as to why their downgrade is being considered, and any proof for said reason?Lapsad said:Ok. Allof this, We can brief the downgrade for to aru then?.
It does since non-insignificant size is one of the requirements to get Higher D tiers. Its not always about higher infinitiesZephyrosOmega said:the dimensions being non-insignificant doesn't matter if they're not explicitly higher infinities anyway IIRC
I really doubt Ultima would be that dumb to directly mention that as a requirement if it wasn't. Which it is.ZephyrosOmega said:the dimensions being non-insignificant doesn't matter if they're not explicitly higher infinities anyway IIRC
"This rating can be reached by 5 and 6-dimensional constructs and spaces when they are either of an infinite (or otherwise non-insignificant) size or portrayed as qualitatively greater than lower-dimensional objects in their setting"ZephyrosOmega said:the dimensions being non-insignificant doesn't matter if they're not explicitly higher infinities anyway IIRC
Yes, i support to low-1C tooAccelerate420 said:"This rating can be reached by 5 and 6-dimensional constructs and spaces when they are either of an infinite (or otherwise non-insignificant) size or portrayed as qualitatively greater than lower-dimensional objects in their setting"ZephyrosOmega said:the dimensions being non-insignificant doesn't matter if they're not explicitly higher infinities anyway IIRC
We proved non-insignificant AND that there's qualitive differences between greater and lower as with the 3-D Casuality not being able to read 11-D.
By brief he means briefing, as in, summing up what needs to be done. Which would be to downgrade all Tier 1s into some level of tier 2. And it looks like it's happening.Lapsad said:Ok. Allof this, We can brief the downgrade for to aru then?.