Eugard's accelerated development is frankly some of the most batshit insane in the verse, probably only behind the likes of Reid & Garf.
I actually disagree with this. In base he's equal to the others in his group. In peak state he's stronger than them but they still downscale. Bordeaux blocked a blow from Kurgan and Grimm actually blocked a few from Wilhelm in his peak state before getting blown back.
I think it's fine. People like Cecilus and Wilhelm are supposed to be quite a bit beyond lightning speed. Halibel seems to be someone who is strong but relies more on his hax than them. I think it’s fair to just say that Halibel and now Eugard are lightning speed and Groovy is just close to it. The divine generals are strong as hell.
No, it's fine really. It gets us talking about this stuff so we can have a clearer understanding.
I am making the thread and even I don't know what it's gonna look like lol.
Yeah, this is actually fair. You make a good point. But I still don't really think Eugard really has the same level of feats that Garf does after absolutely destroying Mezo.
I get where you are coming from but he at the very least downscales to Halibel and went from Groovy to Halibel really ******* fast, Currently i would say their AD is relative because both had to "die" for them to achieve it (Eugard did have to regen multiple attacks from Halibel to grow from it)
The method I'd use is: Mezoreia was knocked out by Garf's attack, feeling it's aftereffects, but she still both withstood the strike and was up again. Kid Cecilus is stronger than Mezoreia, and then Halibel is (or at least was) comparable to adult Cecilus, which we're told numerous times.
No, he isn't. He was buffed by Cor Leonis. The same kind of buff that can allow a normal dude like Weitz to pummel second class generals. And kid Cecilus is normally already able to put up a pretty good fight against Arakiya and Balleroy. But Balleroy has also been shown to be clearly below Mezoreia so we know kid Cecilus is too.
Maybe in terms of overall combat prowess, sure, but Halibel does not use raw power to fight. He uses hax. That's my whole point. Them being equals is not enough proof that they have the exact same ap. And that's assuming you could even scale Cecilus to the Garf feat in the first place.
Is Cecilus confirmed as affected by the Cor Leonis-induced Mana Excitation? Subaru wasn't aware of his location, and he seemed exempt from the Mana Excitation in the Pleiades Corps ss.
I think in terms of sheer power, it could be Cecilus > Garfiel > Halibel > Eugard. I also think that they're all in a comparable range of eachother— such that Garfiel could break Cecilus' leg, or Halibel could pierce Garfiel's spine, or Eugard could fracture Halibel's ribs.
That detail in early Arc 8 is weird because the corebug's location can be anywhere, as shown in "A Magical Approach" and Sphinx's corebug specifically being in her head.
From ch 104
Moreover it just makes natural sense. Why would he struggle with Balleroy if he could easily toss around Mezoreia?
Satella's shadow should also get fusionism , her shadow melts and mixes any object together heteregeneous.
Looks much better than before however Echidna seems to be missing explosion manipulation as well as Minya's durability negation.
Isn't Cecilus like, the only one who can use the Flow Method by himself in the battalion?
It'd just be a matter of affinity, then.
Volumes 32, 33, 34, 36, 37, and 38 show the buildings in Imperial Capital Lupugana. If there's no good shots in the novel, the potential of using Lugunica Capital's buildings from Season 1 exists too.
Changes made.
Would this not mean that Elsa has High mid regen negation resistance?
No?????????
I'm not gonna deny that there is some degree of affinity involved in this but there's a very clear and massive power difference here. Balleroy couldn't scratch Mogro but he could blow Cecilus' limbs off. Mezoreia melted through Mogro like butter and Cecilus was still able to draw blood from it.
And he's doing this while literally up in the sky. Garf couldn't even come close to this while on the ground. Granted, we never saw him running around once he reached his full strength, but he still should have been beyond the level of someone like Balleroy or Olbart at that point. And Garf is supposed to be a fast fighter. That's why he was able to dodge and parry Kurgan so well in arc 5. That's why Wilhelm straight up told him he's noticeably faster than him. That's why arc 4 states he's just a bit stronger AND faster than Elsa.
Maybe, although I had always been under the impression that her antimagic cloak dispelled the effects of Minya and allowed her to regenerate. If that isn't what happened then yes she'd have resistance to regen neg.
That isn't the case:
It's more like:
I wouldn't agree with the idea that Balleroy can "keep up" with Cecilus. He can snipe at Cecilus from kilometres away, and that distance would obviously make a fast target easy to track, it's why planes seem to slowly move through the sky despite often times surpassing the speed of sound.
Well he wasn't just trying to get past it, no. He had tried to defeat it. Even then, I think it's necessary to recall the fact that Balleroy had attempted to fight Mezoreia inside of its clouds which it can control at will.
in the anime she was crystalized and broken apart and came back, i dont think the magic cloak would apply AFTER she has been killed (that would imply Roswaal having a mechanism greater than Felix's healing magic...)
I mean that the cloak would return her broken crystaline body to flesh, and then her Curse would repair her.
Seems like a stretch zab...
Ok, I misremembered. My bad.
A true dragon is entirely made out of mana. Any damage they tank is by mana. The only special resistance they have to magic is special effects like Minya. Pure magical power that has the same energy as another's punch is going to do the same damage.
It's more like:
The full quote straight up implies that Mogro is just as fast as Balleroy but Balleroy's ability to freely move around in the air still makes him difficult to hit. Yet that doesn't change the fact that Mogro eventually did hit him, or would have if Mezoreia didn't interfere.
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In every fight Balleroy has ever been in he has been zipping around the battlefield in order to fire shots from all directions around and the same is true here. That's something that could only be done by being relatively close to his opponent and still being able to keep up with them or being literally hundreds of times faster than them if he is at his maximum range.
Ok, Cecilus is good at dodging. Balleroy is still fast as hell in this fight.
Ok, again, that's my bad. Mezoreia can control all of the clouds across the empire though. They didn't until Garfiel cause they never felt the need to. I think assuming they did here is presumptuous at best. This still suggests to me that Mezoreia was able to keep up with Balleroy well enough to hit him but since he was trying to fight it I'll admit that it is less impressive.
Perhaps you are right and he really isn't buffed by cor leonis. He is just really fast. But he still never did anything like Garf breaking its nose, much less him paralyzing it with a single blow. Ceshi couldn't draw blood at all, even with bladed weapons, until he hit its weak points. Just dart around like a pest. I still don't think this is evidence that he should scale to Garf's best strength feats. That would just be an assumption based on something as loose as him being stronger now by a largely unknown amount.
And you watched it anyway!
no i didn't
S1 has fun moments!
This has been known I thought. Not this specific feat but just that Subaru's page is hilariously innacurate. He has quite a few of these in the anime. At least one off the top of my head is easily better. Although be should just be scaling to the 9-A characters anyway. At least from arc 5 onward.
Wasn't the only reason Subaru isn't 9-A is cuz his Gate was broken or smth? Then again, I am not entirely sure what the AP value that the 9-A cast scale to, so eh.
