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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 3 is Real

Just finished phase 4 of arc 8, now just have phase 5 to go. Sphinx is a genuine threat, these turn of events are pretty interesting.

Having seen Sphinx in Ex Novel 2, was wondering what exactly she could bring to the main story, pleasantly surprised. The insane drive for knowledge and improvement is very scary, every time she is on the ropes, she finds a way out.

Been a while since I read Ex Novel 2, so don't remember who exactly helped her escape, but they made one of the biggest mistakes ever.

Anyway lots of stuff to sort through, organize, discuss etc. Probably going to need my staycation in a month to get through everything. Last summer I was working on Re Zero, this summer, will be working on Re Zero lol.
 
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Wrote this little argument for Murasame's CM up, did I miss anything/make any mistakes?
The Fiend Sword Murasame is an enchanted blade, which possesses the ability to sever the concept of the "Point" of anything it slashes. Within all things there is an appropriate "Point", no matter the object, phenomenon, or even concept, there exists a "Point" which signifies its essence.

Essentially, it's made clear that this "Point" is an metaphysical aspect present in all things— an essential concept that objects, phenomena, and concepts cannot exist without, and that the destruction of which by Murasame's blade will cause said things to cease to exist.

Some feats Murasame has include:
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Childe vs Emilia (0-7-0) (grace)

Tartagalia vs Emilia, Arc 6-7 key: @VortechsTG , @Fezzih_007 , @SatellaTheWoE @V999 @MysticBrawler @MasterOwOgay @Hiiilt both ae tier 7A Speed is Equalized SBA battle takes place in Priestella
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Kaeya VS Rem (0-0-0)

Genshin Impact VS Re Zero • Speed are equalized • Both are 7-A • Kaeya : 454 Megatons • Rem : 205.4 Megatons • Location : Random Forest Kaeya : Rem : Inconclusive :
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Fate Manip.... also, Priscilla just dropping this bombshell?? "Hmm yes I knew you both had Authorities this whole time, bye now!"
Priscilla: [The Authorities held by yourself and Al may possess the power to warp even the laws of fate. But, you ought to remember this. Regardless of what use you make of your powers and prayers, there are some who desire that things remain unchanged.]

Priscilla: [You had best remember this, you who have decided to carry “heroic reveries” upon your backs, possessing the means to defy predetermined fate.]
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Robo432343 said:
is this real??
Is stronger than Satella, whose power of love is described as a destructive force, unimaginably strong, conceptual in nature and transcends all possible mathematical dimensions.
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This feels like it's taking the description a bit literally. Here's the WCT translations btw (it's the same between the WN & LN)
In any case, it was a woman in black. It was as if she were wearing a black wedding dress, with a black veil that made it impossible to see both into it and out of it. This black veil completely concealed her face.

“――I love you.”

However, the words which emerged from the lips of the woman who was shrouded in darkness contained an unimaginably strong emotion.

Just how many emotions he could concentrate within, to get close to the words that slipped out from her lips?

There was quality, there was quantity, there was a sense of time, there was weight, there was worth, and that was just the general concept. —Arc 6, Chapter 39, "Ruins"
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――I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you.

Love akin to a curse that would never, by any means, leave, transcending every conceivable dimension, was blotting out the existence called Natsuki Subaru.

A hellish world devoid of love; that, he knew.

That his own self was still loved; that, Natsuki Subaru knew.

However, at the same time, that not all forms of “love” should be something to be affirmed, that he also should know.

Exactly because of his ignorance, there would be retribution.

Exactly because of his ignorance, of why everyone dreaded it, ran from it.

――It morphed into a sable shadow, swallowing all things, cheering while destroying. —Arc 7, Chapter 54, "The Utopia of Chaosflame"
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There was also some stuff about Od Laguna being Ying and Yang, thus above platonic concepts, interesting stuff.

The person who made pages based on all that, is a member of this wiki too, and they are very confident in defending their ratings.
 
Eh, Od Lagna is the source of the world and Mana, but I don't believe it's said to be responsible for the existence of Magic and Attributes, which seems to come from living beings.

I can't get behind using merely the name of two attributes to justify the cosmology in that way... I think if higher dimensional stuff gets involved, it'll be due to the Observers rather than Magic.
 
Robo432343 said:
is this real??
Is stronger than Satella, whose power of love is described as a destructive force, unimaginably strong, conceptual in nature and transcends all possible mathematical dimensions.
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Robo... (I'm missing a few scans from that album, that show her love is akin to her power)

Celestial_Pegasus said:
There was also some stuff about Od Laguna being Ying and Yang, thus above platonic concepts, interesting stuff.

The person who made pages based on all that, is a member of this wiki too, and they are very confident in defending their ratings.
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I can't take all the credit, had a decent amount of help from a few others, and to clarify it's not neccssarily platonic concepts (that would be a long discussion)

And I mean like yeah, as I say on the profiles, I'm not trying to push it as a meta or anything, it's just that when I looked at the raws of Regulus and Satella especially in the LN, they said some interesting things, and WCT at times messes up for the wn (and we all know about yawnpress, whom really downplayed Subaru looking at the raws).

Funnily enough, I asked Ultima about the Od Laguna stuff and aside from his usually vague "maybe", his response was that his only issue is if "mana and magic/the elements" are universal in nature or just physical phenomena, if not he could see it I sent scans of them being universal in nature afterwards and he didn't reply 😭 though he said it should be 2-C and that the hall of memories was really good (too bad a lot has been scrapped from the LN)
 
Binged the remaining chapters of Arc 8, now I am an emotional mess

200.webp


As for the arc itself, it's top 3 no doubt for me, where exactly it stands would have to think, arc 8 was a good combo of action, and character development. In terms of actual antagonists, Sphinx is definitely #1 for me, and Priscilla is an easy top 3 female character .

Didn't really think much of Al before either, but he has moved up a lot for me too.

But anyway there is a lot of info to sort through, so until I have all that organized in sanboxes, don't really have strong opinions when it comes to power scaling. Speed will be a messy thread no doubt, and probably what I will get to first.
 
Pepsiman25th said:
prediction

Arc 9 shall be in Lagunica and be more lore based and focus on the royal selection
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My full prediction: It'll be based on the royal selection. We'll get more time with the characters and all their interactions. Even more with their families and estates. As the royal selection happens, the archbishop of Lust will make her grand return and try to take over the throne and lagunica for herself since she is the "rightful" air to the throne being a member of the royal family. Then a civil war happens in Lagunica between the candidates and their supporters, those who want Capella to become the next ruler and the witches cult.
 
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Lugunica seems fine in the side stories at least. I think after wrapping up Vollachia's loose ends, they'll break the news of Priscilla to the Council, and whatever Arc 9's plot is will go from there. Arc 10 is supposedly the "Royal Capital arc", so I don't think Arc 9 will spend a lot of time there.
 
Zabazab said:
Made a short CRT for Murasame
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Re:Zero — Cecilus Conceptual Manipulation Update

Shorter CRT focussing on a single ability from each of Cecilus' two swords: the Fiend Sword Murasame's Conceptual Manipulation, which is currently rated Type 3 as, at the time of making his profile, its details were mostly unknown. Now that the Empire saga has wrapped up, the new evidence...
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My local neighborhood wanker never disappoints !!
 
Zabazab said:
Made a short CRT for Murasame
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Re:Zero — Cecilus Conceptual Manipulation Update

Shorter CRT focussing on a single ability from each of Cecilus' two swords: the Fiend Sword Murasame's Conceptual Manipulation, which is currently rated Type 3 as, at the time of making his profile, its details were mostly unknown. Now that the Empire saga has wrapped up, the new evidence...
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Good timing, was just about to start working on sandboxs and stuff, will be a while before anything is ready to go though.
 
Zabazab said:
Before I post this for evaluation, does this calc make sense to you lot? Or did I make any errors in my premise?
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Garfiel Punches Clouds

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No, it doesn't make sense because Garfiel never cleared the sky. Mogro and Balleroy did. He did knock the wind out Mezoreia so you could scale him to any physical or breath attacks it uses but not this. Nobody scales to this.
 
Vollachia is also visibly way smaller north to south than 1/2 the length west to east on the rough official map. It's more like 1/5 or 1/6 of the length on average. Assuming they're dark clouds all across the empire just because they are that way when condensed makes no sense as well.
 
VortechsTG said:
No, it doesn't make sense because Garfiel never cleared the sky. Mogro and Balleroy did. He did knock the wind out Mezoreia so you could scale him to any physical or breath attacks it uses but not this. Nobody scales to this.
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Are you sure?

Garfiel punches the cone & the clouds burst, Mezoreia is knocked out.
Courageous Warrior: [Have a taste of these fists.]

Using all of his strength, without holding back, he pummeled his fist into it.

He pummeled it, and then――,

Courageous Warrior: [Let my amazin’ self hear yer story. ――Just like how Captain ‘n the others once listened to mine.]

As stout arms of silver shot up, they crashed into the dark, cone-shaped clouds of ruin.

That instant, the folded layers of the sky and the spiraling black clouds erupted in an explosion bereft of sound, engulfing the world.

Courageous Warrior: [――――]

The result of the collision, was brought about to a world in which sound had vanished.

Just what sort of conclusion had been incurred, was likely to only take shape after a flicker of light.

Only, the sky that had been birthed beyond the collision, the sky from which the enshrouding black clouds had vanished, was blue.

In the past, a flying dragon rider had bestowed a name upon a lonely dragonkin; and, same as the color of the hair he had lovingly, cherishingly stroked many a time, sky-blue stretched out above, and that was all.
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Mezoreia (Madelyn) wakes up, and spirals clouds around Balleroy in the distance, then Moguro explodes and clears the sky, Madylzoreia cries while on the surface.
Distorting his expression, Heinkel listened to Garfiel’s war cry. ――As he did so, Heinkel did not notice the slight stirring of the fallen Cloud Dragon behind him.
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That instant, dragon claws thrust into the ground, and the collapsed body raised itself. Immediately, the red-haired man to its side screamed “Uoohhh!?” as he fell onto his backside, but that did not weigh on their mind.

More so than such insignificant things, what mattered now was――.

???: [Balleroy―― hk.]

The impact of being punched had been far too tremendous, so they were unable to stand up. But, that was no matter. What was needed now was not the strength to stand up, but the might of an empyrean being.

With a quiver of their long whiskers, funneling power into their sharp eyes, they focused their attention on the sky directly above the Crystal Palace. The scintillation ascended straight upwards, streaking a hue of emerald green across the ether. And at the summit of that beam of luminescence, only continuing to climb higher, was somebody precious.

That intent, that resolve, that determination, and that selfishness, they would forgive it all.

???: [――――PREAHHHHHH.]

The power gushing out of their humongous body obtruded upon the welkin, and a cumulus maelstrom began to coil in the sky of the Crystal Palace. Once they ushered the emerald gleam into the vortex, they drastically increased the density, and accelerated the gyre further.

Like so, the Cloud Dragon Mezoreia―― Madelyn, summoned all of her power.

Madelyn: [――Ah.]

That instant, a flicker of light illuminated the world, and the maelstrom of clouds was ripped asunder from within.

What that signified, what had been lost from the world, what had become distant from herself, she keenly understood to a painfully clear extent.

Madelyn: [Ah, ahhh, AHH, AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH――!!!]

Gazing up at the sky of scattered clouds, thinking about the one she loved, of whom there no longer remained any vestiges, Madelyn burst into a wail with the large mouth and thick neck of the Cloud Dragon.

――Underneath the odiously clear sky, the lovelorn maiden of the Dragons just kept crying.
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VortechsTG said:
Vollachia is also visibly way smaller north to south than 1/2 the length west to east on the rough official map. It's more like 1/5 or 1/6 of the length on average. Assuming they're dark clouds all across the empire just because they are that way when condensed makes no sense as well.
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I don't exactly have visuals to work with for this...
 
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