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Superman gets glared.
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It's not that his glare has short range, it's that the trees and foliage of Central Park block Jiren from visibly seeing Superman.TheC2 said:I don 't get why we're saying that Jiren's Glare is so short in range. We list all his ki blasts and attacks as universal in range. His glare falls under that and we don't list it as shorter.
He can still sense him, though. Besides this also the fact that Jiren could just Danmaku the area.Warren Valion said:It's not that his glare has short range, it's that the trees and foliage of Central Park block Jiren from visibly seeing Superman.TheC2 said:I don 't get why we're saying that Jiren's Glare is so short in range. We list all his ki blasts and attacks as universal in range. His glare falls under that and we don't list it as shorter.
That's exactly what Jiren's win-con is in this match.TheC2 said:He can still sense him, though. Besides this also the fact that Jiren could just Danmaku the area.
Ki is Life Energy.Xalatath said:Superman doesnt have ki he can't sense him. While supes can see him because x ray vision and can one shot with heat vision.
That is exactly how that works.Xalatath said:Pretty sure thats not how it works.
How long is the scaling chain?Xalatath said:Superman is also far above baseline . So Jiren doesnt one shot. Superman is stronger more intelligent and outhaxes him really bad. Superman wins easily.
See, I knew I wasn't the only one that thought something about that scan felt off.MrKingOfNegativity said:>Power that countered a ring which destroyed every possible future but one
Isn't that...
Far above Low 2-C?
@SmashorTheMasculineMineta said:I see. So instead of Goku vs Superman, you're doing someone who fought Goku vs Superman. Technically still legal. I applaud you.
That's the best bet for now.Wokistan said:Does pre crisis scale to Monarch? Monarch beat 52 Low 2-C Captain Atoms at once.
Beating 52 of something doesn't make you 52X times as strong as one of that thing. Not saying that's what you're saying, just saying.Wokistan said:Does pre crisis scale to Monarch? Monarch beat 52 Low 2-C Captain Atoms at once.
It would have been if Monarch just one-shotted them all at once. Which doesn't seem to be the case here.DragonEmperor23 said:Beating 52 of something doesn't make you 52X times as strong as one of that thing. Not saying that's what you're saying, just saying.Wokistan said:Does pre crisis scale to Monarch? Monarch beat 52 Low 2-C Captain Atoms at once.
AFAIK, it was when Jiren shook the World of Void, and a slightly-serious Jiren backslapped SSBKKx20 Goku and SSBE Vegeta, and the latter had taken out GoD Toppo not moments before.Assaltwaffle said:Honestly when does Whis call Jiren stronger than the GoDs? Knowing Whis' deductive ability how do we know he wasn't referring to full power Jiren?
That would line up with a serious Jiren being above GoD Toppo.
Would this suffice?Assaltwaffle said:Honestly when does Whis call Jiren stronger than the GoDs? Knowing Whis' deductive ability how do we know he wasn't referring to full power Jiren?
That would line up with a serious Jiren being above GoD Toppo.