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Overlord (Ninjago) vs Superman (Post Crisis)

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Overlord vs Superman
Golden Master key is used for Overlord
Post Eradicator Absorption key is used for Superman
Overlord has his Golden Spider Mech
Speed is equalized
Both characters are limited to 2-C attacks
Fight takes place in a empty deserted city

Starting distance: 20m
SBA for the rest

Overlord:
Superman:
Inconclusive/idk/tie:
 
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Emirp sumitpo said:
What does Overlord start with?

Superman kinda one shots here, unless there's some hax that prevents that.
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Overlord got resistances negation against his own hax, and he mainly start by mind haxing his victims/corrupt them, or use Golden Power which has EE and Reality Warping. He doesn't really have much of a starting move tbh, he use his abilities depending on the situation
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Overlord got resistances negation against his own hax, and he mainly start by mind haxing his victims/corrupt them, or use Golden Power which has EE and Reality Warping
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Uhhh, Superman kinda resists both, not to mention his is pretty layered.

Does Overlord have all the abilities of his spirit form? Or just when possessing Garmaddon.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Uhhh, Superman kinda resists both, not to mention his is pretty layered.

Does Overlord have all the abilities of his spirit form? Or just when possessing Garmaddon.
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Only the abilities of his Possessing Garmadon and Dragon Form, he could also trap Superman in a black void or use FSM's powers which he has and BFR his Soul in another Universe like his domain (he did it in S16 too as a soul)
 
Lloydblitzed said:
For BFR, FSM did it pretty much instanly (by unknown means) and brought Lloyd to his own personal Realm. GM has the same powers so he should be able to do that. For Soul Manip, his powers are pretty much the same as Dark Matter which corrupts the soul, mind, body and he can also corrupt with Breath Attacks.
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I mean if via breath attacks, Superman can easily just move out of the way, and attack from a distance. And the BFR thing? Idk if that's a solid wincon if we don't really know how he does it to begin with.
 
20 meters is enough distance for Superman to start using his lasers before the overlord surrounds him. He could just blow the overlord away with far superior LS and AP. Not to mention to mention Superman can resists things like the Anti-Life Equation, which has far greater mind/soul hax than the overlord. So the corruption hax working on him is pretty questionable to begin with.
 
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Emirp sumitpo said:
20 meters is enough distance for Superman to start using his lasers before the overlord surrounds him. Not to mention to mention Superman can resists things like the Anti-Life Equation, which has far greater mind/soul hax than the overlord. So the corruption hax working on him is pretty questionable to begin with.
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GM has Ash powers which will allow him to become intangible and evade his blasts. Also, what will Supes do against Sealing ?
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
The ALE is 6-D.
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Dang
Emirp sumitpo said:
Superman also has intangibility and his heat vision can hit intangible beings, so that's not a problem.
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Ash bypassed Kai's Non-Physical interaction with his intangibility, so it could work
Emirp sumitpo said:
How in character is sealing? With sealing, Superman could just vibrate back to his home universe. Plus didn't you say he often starts with corruption.
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Ye, but he also use pretty much anything depending on the situation
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
I don't see how that's dura neg, if anything, Kai just doesn't have very good electricity resistance. That, and the gap between Supes and Overlord is practically infinite.

What resistance negation?
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Resistances negation is the ability to bypass someone's resistance to specific abilities (Example: Supes is resistant to Earth manipulation, but GMs Resistance negation to earth makes Supes resistance useless as GM can bypass it)
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Resistances negation is the ability to bypass someone's resistance to specific abilities (Example: Supes is resistant to Earth manipulation, but GMs Resistance negation to earth makes Supes resistance useless as GM can bypass it)
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Which one in particular is what I'm asking.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
Which one in particular is what I'm asking.
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Well looking at Supes profile rq, and the fact GM has resistance negation against all of his own hax, GM can negate Superman's:
  • EE resistance,
  • Gravity Manip Resistance
  • Mind Manip Resistance
  • Reality Warping Resistance
  • Time Stop Resistance
  • Soul Manip Resistance
  • Time Slow Resistance
  • Energy Manip Resistance
  • Fire Manip Resistance
  • Ice Manip Resistance
  • Poison Manip Resistance
  • Telekinesis Resistance
  • Electricity Resistance
 
Lloydblitzed said:
  • Gravity Manip Resistance
  • Energy Manip Resistance
  • Fire Manip Resistance
  • Ice Manip Resistance
  • Poison Manip Resistance
  • Telekinesis Resistance
  • Electricity Resistance
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All of these are practically irrelevant when you bring in the sheer stat difference between Overlord and Superman, not to mention Superman's massive LS advantage which would allow him to just tank through.

Like his gravity manip would only be like Class T, that will do nothing to someone with Stellar LS

Lloydblitzed said:
  • EE resistance,
  • Mind Manip Resistance
  • Reality Warping Resistance
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Superman has already resisted being erased from existence by the High 1-C Mr Mxy. And even resisted the reality warping effects of his realm. Overlord's EE and RW are not that potent enough to be compared. Superman mind and soul hax resistance has far larger layers as well. Even ignoring Superman being able to resist the 6-D ALE, his resistance already goes like:

ALE can control the entire multiverse with their mind and souls, up to even the 6-D Sphere of the Gods < Kyle rayner can resist it via willpower < White Martian's mind hax < MMH's Mind Hax < Superman's mind resistance to MMH.

Lloydblitzed said:
  • Time Stop Resistance
  • Time Slow Resistance
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How layered are these two exactly? Just from the clips I've seen so far, nothing seems to suggest either of these are standard moves for the Overlord.

Only one that potentially works is Poison Manipulation but that one has no scan. And considering Superman's sheer stamina from being poisoned by things much more potent like Kryptonite, it's something he could likely power through.
 
Emirp sumitpo said:
How in character is sealing? With sealing, Superman could just vibrate back to his home universe. Plus didn't you say he often starts with corruption.
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GP users often use Sealing to beat their opponent when they can't kill them.

Also I forgot abt it but GM can use Spinjitzu which is a great speed amp (and a very In character move for him as well) so he can attack Supes before he hits him, and his corruption is layered as:
GM's corruption (strong enough to corrupt and even destroy his own multiverse) > Ninjas resistances to Dark Matter > Dark Matter passive mind + soul hax > Mind hax Vulnerable people to Mind hax/Wu/Misako/Humans
 
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Lloydblitzed said:
LS does not grant resistances
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It absolutely does when said gravity hax is shown to only work against beings with Class T LS. Not Stellar LS. There is a massive physical gap between these two.

Simply put, Superman possesses too much of a stat advantage for any of the Overlord's physical attacks to even work against him. And all his non physical attacks, Superman can either resist or counter in some way.
 
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Emirp sumitpo said:
It absolutely does when said gravity hax is shown to only work against beings with Class T LS. Not Stellar LS. There is a massive physical gap between these two.

Simply put, Superman possesses too much of a stat advantage for any of the Overlord's physical attacks to even work against him. And all his non physical attacks, Superman can either resist or counter in some way.
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I still don't see how Supes is escaping that black corruptive void
 
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