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Why would this not just be Game Mechanics?Like I said before, Battle Facilities shouldn't be used for scaling. Pokemon there are set to a specific level - it tests the trainer's skill, not their team's strength.
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Why would this not just be Game Mechanics?Like I said before, Battle Facilities shouldn't be used for scaling. Pokemon there are set to a specific level - it tests the trainer's skill, not their team's strength.
He provided evidence that it wasn'tWhy would this not just be Game Mechanics?
Could I see it again? I might've taken issue with it before, but it was some time ago, so I don't rememberHe provided evidence that it wasn't
I am neutral like I said above; I am not familiar with the later scaling like from Gen 6 to 8 either.Can the following mods please restate your stance on the current scaling proposal below?
The following is scaling the Post-Legendary encounter mandatory NPCs as comparable without using the Anime or Masters. Purely for the main Pokemon RPG.
- @CloverDragon03
- @Starter_Pack
- @JustSomeWeirdo
- @DemonGodMitchAubin
- @Elizhaa
- @The_Impress
- @Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer
- @LordTracer
- @GyroNutz
- Gen 1
- Champion Blue, Elite 4 Lance, and Alder stay at 6-C
- Gen 2
- Elite 4, Champion Lance, and become 6-B
- Red and Blue 5-B
- Gen 3
- Elite 4, Wally, Wallace, and Steven become High 6-A or 5-B with ORAS
- Gen 4
- Barry, Elite 4, Volkner, and Cynthia become At least 2-B, likely 2-A
- Gen 5
- Zinnia, B/W N, Ghetsis and Cheren, B2/W2 Elite4, Champion Iris, Colress, Benga, Lysandre, AZ become At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A, 2-B likely 2-A in BW2
- Gen 6
- Elite 4, Diantha At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A
- Gen 7
- Alola Elite Four, Title Defense Trainers become At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A
- Gen 8
- Piers, Raihan, Chairman Rose, Leon, Hop, Peony, Champion tournament Trainers become 2-B, likely 2-A
Could I see it again? I might've taken issue with it before, but it was some time ago, so I don't remember
Ok, then I'm guessing its fine to apply the others now?Okay well besides the level 50 thing, that's a pretty clear statement of wanting an even playing field. So, I think I can agree with GyroNutz on that
Wait a little while longer please.Ok I'll apply the changes
@Firestorm808Can the following mods please restate your stance on the current scaling proposal below?
The following is scaling the Post-Legendary encounter mandatory NPCs as comparable without using the Anime or Masters. Purely for the main Pokemon RPG.
- @CloverDragon03
- @Starter_Pack
- @JustSomeWeirdo
- @DemonGodMitchAubin
- @Elizhaa
- @The_Impress
- @Hop_Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer
- @LordTracer
- @GyroNutz
- Gen 1
- Champion Blue, Elite 4 Lance, and Alder stay at 6-C
- Gen 2
- Elite 4, Champion Lance, and become 6-B
- Red and Blue 5-B
- Gen 3
- Elite 4, Wally, Wallace, and Steven become High 6-A or 5-B with ORAS
- Gen 4
- Barry, Elite 4, Volkner, and Cynthia become At least 2-B, likely 2-A
- Gen 5
- Zinnia, B/W N, Ghetsis and Cheren, B2/W2 Elite4, Champion Iris, Colress, Benga, Lysandre, AZ become At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A, 2-B likely 2-A in BW2
- Gen 6
- Elite 4, Diantha At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A
- Gen 7
- Alola Elite Four, Title Defense Trainers become At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A
- Gen 8
- Piers, Raihan, Chairman Rose, Leon, Hop, Peony, Champion tournament Trainers become 2-B, likely 2-A
I suppose so.Have we received sufficient input to apply this now?
Okay. Is somebody here willing and able to properly apply this revision then?I suppose so.
Also, what about this?Wouldn't Alder be 3-C, likely High 3-A in BW2?
He would be since he fought the player very well after defeating IrisWouldn't Alder be 3-C, likely High 3-A in BW2?
At least 3-C, likely High 3-A for Alder it is thenI agree with that, he should definitely be stronger or comparable to the player in B2W2 when they fought fused Kyurem
I believe these are the changes that need to be made, except Alder was agreed to be "At least 3-C, likely High 3-A"The following seems fine if we're scaling the Post-Legendary encounter mandatory NPCs as comparable.
Without using the Anime or Masters:
- Gen 1
- Champion Blue, Elite 4 Lance, and Alder stay at 6-C
- Gen 2
- Elite 4, Champion Lance, and become 6-B
- Red and Blue 5-B
- Gen 8
- Piers, Raihan, Chairman Rose, Leon, Hop, Peony, Champion tournament Trainers become 2-B likely 2-A
- Gen 3
- Elite 4, Wally, Wallace, and Steven become High 6-A or 5-B with ORAS
- Gen 5
- Zinnia, B/W N, Ghetsis and Cheren, B2/W2 Elite4, Champion Iris, Colress, Benga, Lysandre, AZ become "At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A", 2-B likely 2-A in BW2
- Gen 6
- Elite 4, Diantha "At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A"
- Gen 7
- Alola Elite Four, Title Defense Trainers become "At least 3-C, possibly High 3-A"
- Gen 4
- Barry, Elite 4, Volkner, Cynthia become "At least 2-B, likely 2-A"
Can somebody write down all of the knowledgeable members who have helped out in this thread previously please, so I can send a notification to them?
Yes. This will be for a different CRT. For now I think we should probably follow what Clover suggested since I think the staff agreed with him hereThe post that CloverDragon03 quoted seems to exclude anime and Masters canon, I think we just need someone to write up some justifications and then apply them.
Can somebody write easy to understand, but sufficiently thorough, explanations of what is suggested here please, so I can ask Starter Pack, GyroNutz, SamanPatou, CloverDragon03, Elizhaa, Hop Hoppington-Hoppenhiemer, SomebodyData, Amelia Lonelyheart, Saikou The Lewd King, Colonel Krukov, Shadowbokunohero, Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan, Bobsican, Psychomaster35, ElixirBlue, Firestorm808, Executor N0, Theglassman12, and DarkDragonMedeus what they think about it?
Or do we have sufficient staff input here already? If so, which of them have thought what so far?
Ok, since I did saw many staff members agreeing to the proposal mentionedNo, it wasn’t. I’ll see if I can write up some justifications so we can get to applying this.