One Piece Chapter 1069: "All things are brought into this world with hope" (Official Translation)

[DaMonkeMan]

Gotta say, Lucci was pretty damn clever in this chapter.

He knew that he couldn't beat G5 Luffy 1-vs-1 (and that the Seraphim were attacking CP0, who could've matched them but didn't want to hurt them), so once Stussy mentioned that Sentomaru had superior control over the Seraphim, Lucci immediately one-shot Sentomaru and turned the odds in their favor by controlling the Seraphim!

The odds are in their favor until Luffy turns the Seraphim into rubber lol
Also I don't think CP0 could have matched the Seraphim, but they knew they couldn't even attempt to attack them due to limitations from their bosses.

 

[SnookB]

Not me realizing sentomaru mentioned escape rockets and recollected the anti-grav technology, now hoping the straw-hats get shot up to the moon instead of elbaf so we finally get that moon arc even if it's short-

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Not me realizing sentomaru mentioned escape rockets and recollected the anti-grav technology, now hoping the straw-hats get shot up to the moon instead of elbaf so we finally get that moon arc even if it's short-

If the Straw Hats get to fodderize Enel and enrage all his fanboys who always wank too much, I'm all for it!

 

[Eseseso]

Apparently Lucci's Vivre Card says that he's fought the Revolutionaries, so if Sabo ends up scaling to Issho and Greenbull and Lucci ends up scaling in Normal Hybrid to Sabo, that'd be cool.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Apparently Lucci's Vivre Card says that he's fought the Revolutionaries, so if Sabo ends up scaling to Issho and Greenbull and Lucci ends up scaling in Normal Hybrid to Sabo, that'd be cool.

Yeah apparently CP0 and possibly other Cipher Pol units are on Sabo's case a lot.
Which reminds me of the people who use him clashing with Sabo in Film Gold as a justification for him being YC1 or above, when in Stampede Sabo was literally having a struggle with SMOKER of all people. It's clear that the movies don't make any actual sense, and I just wanted to point that out because it was kind of funny that people actually think that.

 

[Eseseso]

I want a Sanji vs normal Hybrid Lucci fight.

Not just for scaling, but also because it was shown in Stampede to be even between them, so they were hyping it up a bit.

Btw, for all you Sabo fans out there, I will make a High 6-A CRT for him, Issho, and Greenbull (who honestly just needs a profile), but I discussed this with Kingtempest and we agreed that it's best to wait until the Water 7 CRT is finished.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I want a Sanji vs normal Hybrid Lucci fight.

Not just for scaling, but also because it was shown in Stampede to be even between them, so they were hyping it up a bit.

Yeah I was thinking that he might do that. Luffy ( or Zoro ) would reasonably stomp Lucci once he got serious, and that's not terribly interesting or unexpected, so Sanji or Jinbe fighting him for a bit would probably be better.

 

[Fireld]

Btw, for all you Sabo fans out there, I will make a High 6-A CRT for him, Issho, and Greenbull (who honestly just needs a profile), but I discussed this with Kingtempest and we agreed that it's best to wait until the Water 7 CRT is finished.

I had a question about Greenbull: You think his physicality(strength/durability) increases when turns into a giant wood golem?

 

[Eseseso]

Yeah I was thinking that he might do that. Luffy ( or Zoro ) would reasonably stomp Lucci once he got serious, and that's not terribly interesting or unexpected, so Sanji or Jinbe fighting him for a bit would probably be better.

A stomp by a serious Luffy would indeed be boring, but Zoro is not stomping Lucci.

He's gonna give Lucci a really hard time and could definitely win, but Lucci still kept up with Gear 5 using Buso. And can use Rokushiki to amp himself.

He loses to serious G5, is even with Zoro, and beats Sanji in a tough fight.

 

[Eseseso]

I had a question about Greenbull: You think his physicality(strength/durability) increases when turns into a giant wood golem?

I mean...yeah, most likely.

Of course, this comes with the downside of him being vulnerable to powerful flames. Like Momo's.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

A stomp by a serious Luffy would indeed be boring, but Zoro is not stomping Lucci.

He's gonna give Lucci a really hard time and could definitely win, but Lucci still kept up with Gear 5 using Buso. And can use Rokushiki to amp himself.

He loses to serious G5, is even with Zoro, and beats Sanji in a tough fight.

It depends on how hard each are trying.
Serious G5 claps Lucci, Zoro with Shishi Sonson, King-Of-Hell/Advanced Haoshoku, or Asura stomps, and Ifrit Jambe would probably do some heavy damage.
Problem is Lucci's Zoan regen,recovery, etc. But that shouldn't be a huge problem here/

 

[Eseseso]

It depends on how hard each are trying.
Serious G5 claps Lucci,

Probably

Zoro with Shishi Sonson, King-Of-Hell/Advanced Haoshoku, or Asura stomps, and Ifrit Jambe would probably do some heavy damage.

Shishi Sonson gets weaker against tougher opponents.

KoH and Asura could do massive damage even with Awakened Tekkai.

IJ would definitely hurt but Lucci can take it with Tekkai.

Problem is Lucci's Zoan regen,recovery, etc. But that shouldn't be a huge problem here/

I mean, a G5 punch only kept him down for like a minute.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Probably

Shishi Sonson gets weaker against tougher opponents.

KoH and Asura could do massive damage even with Awakened Tekkai.

IJ would definitely hurt but Lucci can take it with Tekkai.

I mean, a G5 punch only kept him down for like a minute.

Well, we'll see. Judging by the fact that Kizaru is coming, it seems that Lucci won't be relevant for long and will probably be KO'd or retreat due to someone.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Also do you think Yamato could beat Lucci

 

[Eseseso]

Also do you think Yamato could beat Lucci

I think she wins out in a close match.

She has incredible durability and Hao Infusion.

 

[Antvasima]

Be careful with the pronouns when referring to Yamato. Despite that it was left unclear if they were transgendered or not, Fandom has been acting oversensitive/banhammer-happy in this case.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I think she wins out in a close match.

She has incredible durability and Hao Infusion.

"close" match

 

[Damage3245]

Be careful with the pronouns when referring to Yamato. Despite that it was left unclear if they were transgendered or not, Fandom has been acting oversensitive/banhammer-happy in this case.

That would only be an issue as far as the wiki is concerned. They don't moderate this forum as far as I'm aware.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is good then, but they expect us to adhere to their rules as much as possible, or we might not be allowed to have this forum officially affiliated with them anymore.

 

[Eseseso]

It was a minor one-time thing, I didn't mean anything by it.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, I personally do not care. I just do not want you to get in trouble.

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Apparently Lucci's Vivre Card says that he's fought the Revolutionaries, so if Sabo ends up scaling to Issho and Greenbull and Lucci ends up scaling in Normal Hybrid to Sabo, that'd be cool.

With him being Dragon's strongest subordinate, you know it was Sabo that Lucci fought Cipher Pol fought the Revs.

 

[Eseseso]

With him being Dragon's strongest subordinate, you know it was Sabo that Lucci fought Cipher Pol fought the Revs.

But we can't prove that yet

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Who else in Revs would be able to handle Lucci besides Sabo or Dragon himself?

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

Koala!

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Who else in Revs would be able to handle Lucci besides Sabo or Dragon himself?

Arguably, Lindberg.
Really hear me out here.
This man is a Mink ( so he can go Sulong obviously, and should be very quick and nimble given his tiny build and what not ), has Armament and Observation, and has a lot of inventions like a Freeze Ray.
There's also Morley who was likely taught by Ivankov, has a size advantage ( so things like Hand Gun won't work as well on her ), Armament and Observation, a ground manip fruit ( so she can pull off moves similar to Luffy's Mogura Pistol, and we saw what that did to Lucci ), and a trident.
And of course Kuma.

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Koala!

While she keeps Sabo in check, Lucci would eat her alive

 

[RoronoaxRobin]

Arguably, Lindberg.
Really hear me out here.
This man is a Mink ( so he can go Sulong obviously, and should be very quick and nimble given his tiny build and what not ), has Armament and Observation, and has a lot of inventions like a Freeze Ray.
There's also Morley who was likely taught by Ivankov, has a size advantage ( so things like Hand Gun won't work as well on her ), Armament and Observation, a ground manip fruit ( so she can pull off moves similar to Luffy's Mogura Pistol, and we saw what that did to Lucci ), and a trident.
And of course Kuma.

With the exception of Kuma (whom I include simply because he's not himself at the moment), I don't see Lindberg and Morley beating Lucci

 

[XDragnoir]

so she can pull off moves similar to Luffy's Mogura Pistol, and we saw what that did to Lucci

Assuming a random can do a move as strong as G5...

 

[DaMonkeMan]

With the exception of Kuma (whom I include simply because he's not himself at the moment), I don't see Lindberg and Morley beating Lucci

Lindberg and Morley would probably give him some trouble though.
Thing is his stuff wouldn't work well against Morley's stuff or Lindberg's and it'd be hard to really hit them I bet.
Lindberg especially seems fast as Minks naturally are ( with the probable exception of Garf- Nekomamushi iirc ) and can freeze him.

Assuming a random can do a move as strong as G5...

I never said that, though it seems it was just Luffy throwing the ground at him, it didn't seem to even have Haki imbued.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Btw, for all you Sabo fans out there, I will make a High 6-A CRT for him, Issho, and Greenbull (who honestly just needs a profile), but I discussed this with Kingtempest and we agreed that it's best to wait until the Water 7 CRT is finished.

Aramaki profile before Ulti? Blashpemy!

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

I never said that, though it seems it was just Luffy throwing the ground at him, it didn't seem to even have Haki imbued.

Mole isn't just him throwing the ground though, it's him punching into the ground and then punching his opponent with a rubber ground coated punch. It's basically G5 basic punch + ground.

 

[DBZMLP12345]

I want a Sanji vs normal Hybrid Lucci fight.

Not just for scaling, but also because it was shown in Stampede to be even between them, so they were hyping it up a bit.

Btw, for all you Sabo fans out there, I will make a High 6-A CRT for him, Issho, and Greenbull (who honestly just needs a profile), but I discussed this with Kingtempest and we agreed that it's best to wait until the Water 7 CRT is finished.

The rest of the Tobiroppo still need profiles as well

 

[LordGinSama]

Mole isn't just him throwing the ground though, it's him punching into the ground and then punching his opponent with a rubber ground coated punch. It's basically G5 basic punch + ground.

What you basically just described is Luffy throwing a punch through the ground but with Haki.

 

[Mr.Cinos15]

What you basically just described is Luffy throwing a punch through the ground but with Haki.

I know, but Monke made it sound like as if Luffy just threw some rubber ground at Lucci lol.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Do we see him imbue it with Haki?

 

[Darkvie123]

Thanks !

He was probably using invisible haki to guard against electricity

No problem my friend

 

[XDragnoir]

I never said that, though it seems it was just Luffy throwing the ground at him, it didn't seem to even have Haki imbued.

You implied, quite directly, that what we saw Mogura do to Lucci would happen again if Morley used a similar move.

Edit: For real tho, Lucci downplay isn't surprising to me, but Morley wank is crazy as hell, who would've seen this coming 2 weeks ago?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I'm not downplaying him I just happen to be the only one down to earth and not being so quick to wank the shit out of him.
Also, I'm not saying Morley would be as powerful as G5 Luffy, but she's still fairly strong I bet.

 

[XDragnoir]

I'm not downplaying him I just happen to be the only one down to earth and not being so quick to wank the shit out of him.

It's not wank, Lucci with Koka was equal to G5 with Koka, without it G5 got the upper hand.

Like, dismissing feats as "that's just Fanservice" is kinda bs imo, we don't treat Bellamy's feats against Luffy like that, for example.