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Natsu Dragneel vs Veronica
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Can someone elaborate on Veronica's Death Gazer and Hellfire?
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Death gazer is an invisible attack which turns whatever it touches in to ashes and is a death magic.
Hellfire summons flames which exists in the Demon World, that burns all matter and is difficult to heal.
Hellfire summons flames which exists in the Demon World, that burns all matter and is difficult to heal.
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Yeah about that. Has this attack ever been absorbed in the storyline? I want to say Natsu may be able to eat it but would rather have more evidence firstCelestial Pegasus said:
So Death Gazer is an invisible version of Zeref's magic then. Does she spam it?
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Won't Igneel's scarf block the death magic? Plus he can power null it, even if by accident.
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@Anonymous you mean the ability that's situational at best for how it works?
So the Fire seems to be something Natsu will have a hard time consuming considering it act different. What about her spatial manipulation
So the Fire seems to be something Natsu will have a hard time consuming considering it act different. What about her spatial manipulation
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Stop with the situational power null. That's not how it works. Natsu responds to hax with powernulling it. See the examples under his power nullification.
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YesAnonymousBlank said:
And I'm not really seeing why Fire that burns matter is especially hard to eat?
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Situational at best? Which one and how so? For the scarf, it only took death predation once and successfully stopped it. For the power null, it has consistently worked the moment he applies his flames.
Why would the flames be difficult to consume? Unless it has feats for it, its just fire.
Not too sure about her spatial manip. Does it just happen when she throws a punch or is it a conscious effort thing?
Why would the flames be difficult to consume? Unless it has feats for it, its just fire.
Not too sure about her spatial manip. Does it just happen when she throws a punch or is it a conscious effort thing?
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There's a misconception that Natsu's power nullfication is reliant on emotions and works at random times because Natsu doesn't power null all of his enemies normal attacks. This directly contradicts the information on his page and in Fairy Tail itself.AnonymousBlank said:
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It's punch related
There's nothing situational about a Scarf that stops Death Magic and Fire burning Matter apparently works differently....
...Even though literally every fire burns matter and it's simply more potent (Like every fire used on an M+ character)
BTW doesn't Natsu have like a really good scaling chain as a 7A?
There's nothing situational about a Scarf that stops Death Magic and Fire burning Matter apparently works differently....
...Even though literally every fire burns matter and it's simply more potent (Like every fire used on an M+ character)
BTW doesn't Natsu have like a really good scaling chain as a 7A?
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Holy hell Veronica's design is great.
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DF Natsu >> Etherious Mard Geer > Base Mard Geer > Jellal = 578 Megatons aka Mountain level +Schnee One said:
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Yeah. SO DF Natsu >= Etherious Mard > Base Mard > Jellal's Sema = 578 megatons.
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Yeah and this is before taking into account that Veronica is in Dragon Form so Natsu's going to be doing extra damage with that Dragon Slayer Magic.
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^I vehemently agree with thisThe real cal howard said:
Anyway, Natsu via Powernull+Higher AP+And consuming flames to become stronger
He's also smarter.
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She's a quarter dragon
How does that work
1/4 of a dragon
???
Can Natsu still do extra damage then
How does that work
1/4 of a dragon
???
Can Natsu still do extra damage then
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@Dragon
Ninja'd.
Misconception how? Natsu power null via flames works consistently. Against Hax it burns it no problem. Against AP its just a clash of AP at that point.
Ninja'd.
Misconception how? Natsu power null via flames works consistently. Against Hax it burns it no problem. Against AP its just a clash of AP at that point.
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Hellfire is a spell created by a demon king, demon kings have complete control over their dimension, what the spell does is actually summon an avator of a demon king from the demon world, something like that.
As for her death manipulation, she used it and killed 10,000 ppl.
As for her death manipulation, she used it and killed 10,000 ppl.
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Yeah, the misconception is that they think that because he doesn't burn away normal magic all the time he can't burn hax.AnonymousBlank said:
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Natsu is fine then
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I almost want to say this is an AP stomp for Natsu
She's only 300 megatons while Natsu has a scaling chain over 578 plus a damage boost with Dragon Magik
She's only 300 megatons while Natsu has a scaling chain over 578 plus a damage boost with Dragon Magik
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That doesn't answer my question about spammability.Celestial Pegasus said:
Also how's Natsu nullifying something he can't see?
EDIT: What's with this talk about scaling chain? DF Natsu's strongest attack only weakened Etherious Mard enough for Gray to land the finishing blow. He's not stronger than Etherious Mard
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DS magic doesn't do extra damage, it bypasses the dragon's magic resist which is what stops pretty much every other magic from working on dragons in the first place.
Edit: Natsu's flames just power null stuff. He didn't plan to burn Zero's EE, his flames just did. His flames burned Sting's stigmata the moment he applied them. Since this is DF Natsu, he is covered in flames ie auto null.
Edit: Natsu's flames just power null stuff. He didn't plan to burn Zero's EE, his flames just did. His flames burned Sting's stigmata the moment he applied them. Since this is DF Natsu, he is covered in flames ie auto null.
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Oh okay
Still voting Natsu
Still voting Natsu
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She spams hellfire, death gazer and hell fire.
I can post literally quotes of death gazer if you want:
"No one could see anything. No, it was more accurate to say that they couldn't look. Veronica's 8th circle magic, 'Death Gazer,' wasn't a spell which could be seen with the human eyes. Gluttony said it was a high-density infrared. "No way…" There weren't any spectacular explosions or loud noises. However, Theodore couldn't help shivering. This was just from a glimpse of the magic which appeared before Veronica. "…Is it dead?"
The entire plains subsided into a fearful silence. Veronica's magic, 'Death Gazer,' was fired in a certain direction. The figures who remained in its path didn't look human anymore. From head to toe, the humans had been turned into ashes. Death appeared everywhere it passed. From the beginning of the spell to where it ended, maybe 10,000 people were turned to ashes. It was the death magic which borrowed the name of Balor."
I can post literally quotes of death gazer if you want:
"No one could see anything. No, it was more accurate to say that they couldn't look. Veronica's 8th circle magic, 'Death Gazer,' wasn't a spell which could be seen with the human eyes. Gluttony said it was a high-density infrared. "No way…" There weren't any spectacular explosions or loud noises. However, Theodore couldn't help shivering. This was just from a glimpse of the magic which appeared before Veronica. "…Is it dead?"
The entire plains subsided into a fearful silence. Veronica's magic, 'Death Gazer,' was fired in a certain direction. The figures who remained in its path didn't look human anymore. From head to toe, the humans had been turned into ashes. Death appeared everywhere it passed. From the beginning of the spell to where it ended, maybe 10,000 people were turned to ashes. It was the death magic which borrowed the name of Balor."
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Magic senses+ enhanced senses.Graf Thorsdottir said:
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@Dragon so the sleep hax, gravity hax, and like, every other hax that he faced in the series apparently was nulled? Cause last time I checked, he never mulled any of those hax when he fought those guys.
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Could you be more specific about the people? You can't burn something if you are asleep and he just shrugged off the gravity post time skip.Theglassman12 said:
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Shoulda-been-Lisanna's-love-interest-instead-of-Lucy's fra
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His flames are what power nulls the magic via burning it. If he wasn't covered in flames like he is now then why it get power nulled?
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Also, if you're talking about Mystogan, that's thought based sleep manip. There's nothing to burn there.
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Those are Death Hax?Theglassman12 said:
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I mean not all hax are comparable, question is if he can null death hax which works on tens of thousands of ppl.
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Does she focus the strength of that at once?
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She fires it in a direction, and 10,000 ppl die.
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He's fine then
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Since when was death hax measured by the amount of people it kills. Natsu powernulls death hax that effects characters who are in verse immune to it. (Zeref and his stupid feelings)
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There is no such thing as immunity, veronica's also has an attack which makes durability pointless and null fire resistance.
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It isn't, he's likely comparing it to mindhax
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