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I think he got erased, he has never shown to eat something like that has E-Erasure before.
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Natsu Dragneel vs Sirzech Lucifer
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I reckon actually eating Zechs would erase Natsu...
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On second thought, this is a much better comparison
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo
Mjolner is PoD, Lucy is Thor
Kurse is Natsu
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJneSSYTZFo
Mjolner is PoD, Lucy is Thor
Kurse is Natsu
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Lol
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Oh god thats brutal XD.
(Sigh) If only Zechs was a dragon, then Natsu could get EE flames.
(Sigh) If only Zechs was a dragon, then Natsu could get EE flames.
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@Gargoyle
Lmao, that was amazing
Lmao, that was amazing
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Aww Thanks!Captain Torch said:
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Eating PoD would still allow it to erase you. It even works on the consciousness. He burned away the magic not the EE.
Besides what says that he will be able to eat a countrly level explosion of PoD.
Also again my point.
Natsu likes to rush his opponents. He gets close to Sirzechs he dies due to aura.
Besides what says that he will be able to eat a countrly level explosion of PoD.
Also again my point.
Natsu likes to rush his opponents. He gets close to Sirzechs he dies due to aura.
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Oh also PoD can be also used to erase non material stuff. Like he did to erase Ise's energy so that it wouldn't dmg the surroundings.
So Fire burns PoD and PoD erases fire?
So Fire burns PoD and PoD erases fire?
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Also i would like to put Ajuka vs Natsu but eh, what's done is done.
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Power of destruction is energy that erases existence
Natsu's fire burnt away magic that erases existence. That alone shows that the fire isn't going to be erased, or else it would also have been mutually erased against Zero.
I'm also going to preemptively counter the argument that "PoD is energy not magic so he can't burnt it the same way". Natsu's fire also burns away other forms of energy and magic, and even more abstract things like time, so a bit of energy with the same properties as something else he's burnt won't be much of a problem.
Natsu's fire burnt away magic that erases existence. That alone shows that the fire isn't going to be erased, or else it would also have been mutually erased against Zero.
I'm also going to preemptively counter the argument that "PoD is energy not magic so he can't burnt it the same way". Natsu's fire also burns away other forms of energy and magic, and even more abstract things like time, so a bit of energy with the same properties as something else he's burnt won't be much of a problem.
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The question is. Did zero's EE ignore durability? Because if he didn't ofc it wouldn't work. Natsu has higher AP. Sirzechs' EE ignores Durability, so even if the fire has higher AP or Dura (how can fire have durability?) it would still be erased.
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EE always ignores durability, that's why it's Existence Erasure.
So yes, Zero's EE is actually Existence Erasure, so it ignores durability.
So yes, Zero's EE is actually Existence Erasure, so it ignores durability.
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- Genesis Zero (Òé©ÒéºÒâìÒéÀÒé╣Òâ╗Òé╝Òâ¡ Jeneshisu Zero): Zero's strongest spell. He first gathers a large amount of Darkness Magic around his fingertips before, ultimately, unleashing it as a wave of countless phantoms that seek to erase the target's soul, and even their very existence.
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when has Nastu burn away time?
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Not necessarily. Fire has no soul so it can't be attacked spiritually. And not all EE ignore durability. Hakkai is EE though Goku tanked it with pure durability.Captain Torch said:
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Doesn't Goku have resistence to Existence Erasure though? Wouldnt that mean he resisted it because of his well resistence and not because of stat.
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In verses like Dragon Ball, one can resist haxes just via your power level(not entirely sure, DB fans plz don't attack me)
Fairy Tail is obviously a different case
Fairy Tail is obviously a different case
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I just proved that not all EE just bypass durabilty. So there goes that.Captain Torch said:
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You didn't prove anything though. If anything, I disproved your point by saying that DB is a special case.
You didn't prove anything though. If anything, I disproved your point by saying that DB is a special case.
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This raises the question though. If you can indeed overpower an ability due to pure stat and no other reason. Should you have resistence to it?
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Actually AP > Hax is quite common.Captain Torch said:
DB, SMT, partially DxD, quite a bit of verses do that actually, though why is Fairy Tail different?
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Nah.XenoBreaker2803 said:
Hax overpowers AP. You need resistance, though some verses do it via AP > Hax. Vs Wiki has decided on keeping Hax > AP.
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You do know that fire (or at least the magic) does have a soul in FT, right?Firephoenixearl said:
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Though some abilities have limits on them that make it so that they simply can't affect those stronger than them. How do we treat that hot mess?
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^^^^^^^^^
This discussion is useless given that the EE that Natsu burned ignores dura.
This discussion is useless given that the EE that Natsu burned ignores dura.
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Who cares? The simple fact is that in general, EE is durability negation unless proven otherwise. Nothing about Genesis Zero = Not durability negation. This means that Sirzech's EE is just as vulnerable to be nulled like Genesis Zero.
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It still won't save Natsu. It just makes this passive win rather than active one. Natsu rushes, gets ee-d.
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@Firephoenix
I have to commend your persistence at least
I have to commend your persistence at least
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His flames nullify it regardless. He gets up close and his flames nullify the EE and proceed to tear Sirzechs apart.
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Natsu fra
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Nullifying PoD and nullifying the "aura" that PoD emmits are different issues. Besides natsu's power null is not passive.Dragonmasterxyz said:
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He can just burn away everything that is sirzechs
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He can, he likes to punch things doe. He gets close he gets erased by something he doesn't even know exists.DragonEmperor23 said:
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God forbid Natsu just shoots a Dragon's Roar. That's not a possibility.
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He's covered in fire that burns away EE tho
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Teleport and dimensional bfr are a thing you know.Dragonmasterxyz said:
There is also mind and memory hax.
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He burns away energy EE, not aura.DragonEmperor23 said:
Example: He burns away fire, not heat.
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>BFR, Mind and Memory Hax
i.e things he does not start with. Not to mention that AP advantage will leave Sirzechs a little roasted if you ask me.
i.e things he does not start with. Not to mention that AP advantage will leave Sirzechs a little roasted if you ask me.
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Well he burnt away the darkness/phantoms of Genesis Zero along with the EE, so ....
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