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Natsu Dragneel vs Enji Todoroki (Best comeback ever?)

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also : Enji's Quirk allows him to produce and manipulate fire at will. His pyrokinetic abilities give him a wide arrange of ways to use it. He appears to be immune to other flames, and can easily control the shape and temperature of the blaze as well
 
Where did the cellular level flames come from? (Was it from his fight with High End?)

Idk about the flames thing, sounds a bit NLF
 
Well that goes without saying, I'm also willing to argue that he has an edge in experience, as there's a big reason why he's been the #2 for so long.
 
PTSOXMONKEY99 said:
Where did the cellular level flames come from? (Was it from his fight with High End?)
Idk about the flames thing, sounds a bit NLF
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  • well obviously it's NLF to assume his immune to everytype of fire but the same can be said for Natsu
  • thats how Enji >Regenration by turning their cells to carbon
 
anyway Voting Enji via

superior strength

Far smarter

has fire that can actually harm Natsu

and Experience

Enji isn't an Idiot, he isn't going to just spam fire attacks when Natsu starts eating and shouts "I'm all fired up"

he will simply beat Natsu down with pure strength until he gets the opportunity to carbonize Natsu's head and say "Eat This"

also we have no reason to assume Natsu Fire will be that effective against Enji either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehCT9UO9Je8

^^^This will play OvO
 
So since the votes were based on Natsu resisting fire and being able to eat it and Shadow went against that I....Have no choice but to reset the votes.
 
But we're not assuming Natsu's NLF to all flames. I'm saying Natsu can resist it here because he's shown to to have a ridiculously high temperatures (he's even shown that he can adapt to other types of flames like God Slaying Flame, etch), and the AP difference between the two isn't high enough to assume that Endeavor can easily overcome it.

And Endavor can still be overheated by his own powers and presumably anything else that can cause his body temperature to rise.

Yeah, it was during the High End fight, he carbonized part of his skin. Is that celluar level flames? I though that was something that all fire can do?
 
Endavor isn't going to take this easily by any stretch of the imagination.

what i see are two characters that are resistant to fire.

the problem is one character is smarter, stronger, more skilled and has attacks that can harm Natsu

 
Well before I recast my vote, I need confirmation that carbonizing someone is cellular level because from what I've read carbonization is something that any type of flames that burns at a certain temperature can do
 
  • Endeavor Proceeds to get lolregen'd by High End*
This Natsu? He vaporized part of the Phantom Lord guild hall and also has a bunch of metal melting feats
 
also, Enji won't be weakening himself out during the fight as he isn't going to be spamming his fire attacks when he knows his enemy eats fire
 
But he still gets overheated from using his powers, which adversely effects his physical prowess, so if this drags out, it'll go south quickly. Even if he doesn't spam them, just using it will eventually get to him.
 
Yeah, but that's a casual action. He cranks up the heat in combat when he compresses the flames, which is why he burnt out so quickly against High End.

It's like this. I can easily walk a mile, but if I decide to full out sprint, I'll get tired much more quickly.
 
Endeavor burnt out against High End because High End was stronger then him. Endeavor had no choice but to use his strongest attacks right off the bat.

Natsu isn't as strong as High End so he isn't going to be pushing Endeavor in the same way. Of course Edeavor is tired after firing off his strongest attack.

He literally put everything into that move.
 
But Natsu can use his fire magic to raise Todoroki's temperature. All I see here is two people who use fire and both resist it, but one can absorb it and get stronger, while the other weakens when his temperature raises.

Also, Natsu isn't as stupid as most people think. He's going to notice that he's going weaker as the temperature raises, and he's going to be "all fired up".

Also Natsu managed to melt magic enhanced steel in ch 2 in a couple of seconds, meaning that he most likely can match Endevour's flames.

Even the skill advantage is debatable. Natsu trained since he was a small kid under a dragon, while Todoroki must have started at High school, given the laws in MHA. Also, while Todoroki stopped fighting guys at his level a good amount of time before his fight against High-End, as villains are 8-C in MHA, Natsu never stopped fighting guys on his level, or even above. He's not particularly hindered by guys who can withstand his flames, as we know he sparred with Erza, who has an armor that makes her resist fire. Lastly, Todoroki mainly fights at long range using his quirk, and doesn't go very often at hand to hand combat, while that's Natsu's main way of fighting.

So I would give this to Natsu.
 
For the Enji won't leave fire available to Natsu thing......

Isn't his costume constantly on Fire?

And also isn't Enji's Striking Strength based off his flames?

So how would he be able to do any noticable damage without them?

Also his flames can only Carbonize via Promimence Burn, it's not a constant property of his fire.
 
<Isn't his costume constantly on fire.

That's a personal choice to do that, as shown in flash backs he can turn it off.

Also no, his striking strength comes from the fact he scales to Shouto's feat.
 
Poinciana1971 said:
Endeavor burnt out against High End because High End was stronger then him. Endeavor had no choice but to use his strongest attacks right off the bat.

Natsu isn't as strong as High End so he isn't going to be pushing Endeavor in the same way. Of course Edeavor is tired after firing off his strongest attack.

He literally put everything into that move.
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