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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)

LehenDuo said:
Moon Cancer is one of those Classes that are "subpar", at least that's what I think.
I mean, she has a bunch characteristics that shoud make her strong - 50% NP battery, Buster Up, ATK Up - but it feels like not enough.
Even AT:Earth feels like not enough, and she has 30% Rainbow Up as a Skill and 100% NP Battery.
(Above is considering them as farmers.)

But remember that they are all 5 stars, which makes them strong by nature. The stats they have gives them a big headstart.
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I mean I already have buster servants and Bunyan can buster buff them.

so I am curious if I can skip bb (I already have her original version and moon cancer kiara) and maybe get douman
 
LehenDuo said:
He literally is Waver with Protagonism Rank EX.
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Now I’m imagining if actual Waver had the illogical charisma and mana pools of Fujimaru. It’s going far beyond what would make people say “that‘s impossible” and into the realm of power fantasy. Even if he never summons a(nother) Servant… it’s so easy to imagine him and his students as the de-facto rulers of the Clocktower.
 
LehenDuo said:
The funny thing is that, even if considered a Cause/Open (Described as "For a pleb with about five hundred years behind them doing their very best, Cause rank is the limit. However, unless they "created some sort of magical foundation and stabilized it" they would not be recognized as having the sufficient ability for this rank."), Ritsuka is a magus in name only.

He literally is Waver with Protagonism Rank EX.
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Waver is infinitely better than ritsuka as a magus.
Litterally, any number above 0 is infinitely above it after all
 
Douman’s already here and bb summer is coming up and so is ibuki.

I just need a good recommendation from you guys on what to choose out of the three since muramasa is coming this new year and I want him.
 
TypeOU said:
Waver is infinitely better than ritsuka as a magus.
Litterally, any number above 0 is infinitely above it after all
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If it wasn’t for Waver’s Interlude I’d agree with you.
El-Melloi II: This form isn’t something I reached naturally. Originally, I was more mediocre.
From my stomachache-inducing teaching job, to taking the name of El-Melloi, to training my sub-par magic circuits, it was all…
It was all to become the person I longed to be, during my inexperienced days. The result was this warped image of a magus you see before you.

Mash: Warped image of a magus…? I thought you were a first-rate magus, Mr. El-Melloi.

El-Melloi II: I’m only good at my job. My skill as a magus actually isn’t much different from Fujimaru.
My knowledge, experience, and preparedness have somehow been fused with a first-rate monster. That’s all.
 
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TypeOU said:
Waver is infinitely better than ritsuka as a magus.
Litterally, any number above 0 is infinitely above it after all
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No, he isn't. Waver can "break down" a many diferrent types of theories and foundations as he likes, but his circuits are SO ******* BAD that he just can't actually DO anything. Nasu described him someone who knows the perfect "form" for running, but whose legs just can't keep up with the act.

Waver is the worst of the worst as a magus. He, Gray, Reines, EVERYONE says so. To say he is anything more than that because he can do X or Y just means you aren't understand what "to be a Magus" means.
 
Ubdon said:
If it's not about any wiki tier system, but just about if Nasu believe in multiversal fate, then I'd rather say yes than no.
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also ubdon I spent 60 quartz trying to get douman now I have 53 quartz left.

also I have 3 tickets

when murasama comes up you think I might have enough quartz to get him?


also I got spooked by Anastasia, is she good?
 
Pokemonfan807 said:
also ubdon I spent 60 quartz trying to get douman now I have 53 quartz left.

also I have 3 tickets

when murasama comes up you think I might have enough quartz to get him?


also I got spooked by Anastasia, is she good?
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never played with Anastasia

probably no
 
LehenDuo said:
No, he isn't. Waver can "break down" a many diferrent types of theories and foundations as he likes, but his circuits are SO ******* BAD that he just can't actually DO anything. Nasu described him someone who knows the perfect "form" for running, but whose legs just can't keep up with the act.

Waver is the worst of the worst as a magus. He, Gray, Reines, EVERYONE says so. To say he is anything more than that because he can do X or Y just means you aren't understand what "to be a Magus" means.
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So you mean to tell me even Shirou’s a better Magus than Waver?
 
LehenDuo said:
No, he isn't. Waver can "break down" a many diferrent types of theories and foundations as he likes, but his circuits are SO ******* BAD that he just can't actually DO anything. Nasu described him someone who knows the perfect "form" for running, but whose legs just can't keep up with the act.

Waver is the worst of the worst as a magus. He, Gray, Reines, EVERYONE says so. To say he is anything more than that because he can do X or Y just means you aren't understand what "to be a Magus" means.
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he can use basic spells. Ritsuka can't.
Waver is a mediocre magus. He doesn't stand a chance against the genius, or even decently talented characters of the nasuverse, but "mediocre" is all he is
Ritsuka... calling him a magus almost feel insulting to them.
 
Migue79 said:
So you mean to tell me even Shirou’s a better Magus than Waver?
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I will let Tohsaka herself answer that - "No way. I wouldn't have let you go out by yourself if I'd known. Well, it's true that I thought you were unskilled, but if you don't have a Magic Crest, you're not even a magus."
 
Also finally did it guys


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TypeOU said:
Shirou is above average (especially if you take into account his talent for projection), Waver is plain average.
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GJ: I have a question about Fate characters. How high (or low) are the talents of Emiya Shirou and Tohsaka Rin within the entire history of the Association?
Nasu: Rin really is a genius. Given time, she'll enter within the top 100 magi of the Association throughout its entire history. Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice, but as a spell-user, he'll be among one of the big specialists. Ultimately, he'll receive an evaluation on the same level as "Magus Killer" Emiya Kiritsugu had in his peak, maybe. If I were to put into simple numbers, Ciel: 100, Rin: 70-100, Shirou: 10 (under particular limited conditions, then 40).
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It straight out says "Shirou won't move out from being an magus apprentice". Someone who can basically use only one spell (correctly/well) won't ever be accepted as a Magus. (Add to that he lacks Crest, no family history, etc)

Let's not confuse combat ability (Waver would have basically zero, in Adventures he could barely keep Reinforcement up and can't do things like staying awake long term/etc that are put as basics, while Shirou would be pretty good, specially UBW/Heavens Feel) with talent as Magus, or the prejudice older Western Magus family have towards New Agers/etc.
 
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LehenDuo said:
Youtube has most if not all of the CQs done with only 3 Stars or 1 SR/SSR + 3 Star supps. Some have a "Stat check" (you need X stats to be able to do it), but most of them are about how you go around the gimmick being thrown at you.

But talking about JP... WTF have they done to Musashi S1!?!?!/!?!
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I only want to beat the exhibition quests to get tickets, they better nerf Hassan when he comes to NA again because he randomly targets things instead of the targeting the servant in the front
 
Just use a team consisting of Castoria, Merlin and Skadi. It will take a long time, but victory is certain.
 
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