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yea, unified language can communiate directly with the root. Osiris might actually be the strongest character in the nasuverse behind void shiki and archetype earthDoesn’t she use the unified language as well?
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yea, unified language can communiate directly with the root. Osiris might actually be the strongest character in the nasuverse behind void shiki and archetype earthDoesn’t she use the unified language as well?
I mean doesn’t she take nothing but Ls also yk even fodder like Kurogiri have Unified Langauge right? He ain’t anywhere near the strongest Nasu character.yea, unified language can communiate directly with the root. Osiris might actually be the strongest character in the nasuverse behind void shiki and archetype earth
she kinda has to take ls since the story wouldnt progress.. but even though kurogiri is fodder, him knowing the unified language alone nets him the title of the magus closest to a magician. Osiris has the combination of abilities needed to abuse it.I mean doesn’t she take nothing but Ls also yk even fodder like Kurogiri have Unified Langauge right? He ain’t anywhere near the strongest Nasu character.
I see, regardless Osiris wouldn’t her thing contradict the whole top three strongest Nasu people Archetype Void and True Daemons?And Touko says that even Kurogiri uses a degraded version due to his poor talent as a mage
not exactly since she comes after that statement is madeI see, regardless Osiris wouldn’t her thing contradict the whole top three strongest Nasu people Archetype Void and True Daemons?
Over my cold dead body.So, if and/or most likely when Ultima's thread passes, who's going to be the one to try and upgrade the Root to Tier 0?
MFW Deagon sees both 1-A ORT and Tier 0 RootSo, if and/or most likely when Ultima's thread passes, who's going to be the one to try and upgrade the Root to Tier 0?
from what I know about Ultima's thread, High 1-A seems the most realistic to aim for. I just think 1-A looks better on profiles.So, if and/or most likely when Ultima's thread passes, who's going to be the one to try and upgrade the Root to Tier 0?
b-b-b-b-but Roa said there's infinite omnipotence??????Over my cold dead body.
ultima himself said root would probably qualify for 0, and i personally think it qualifies.from what I know about Ultima's thread, High 1-A seems the most realistic to aim for. I just think 1-A looks better on profiles.
That's fair. High 1-A would probably be better (I don't know, some of that stuff goes way over my head).from what I know about Ultima's thread, High 1-A seems the most realistic to aim for. I just think 1-A looks better on profiles.
dawg, she said it so many damn timesThe biggest obstacles for 0 is this ryougi = root shit you people keep spewing
I think types are the one that should downscale, unless you have good evidenceThis is reminds me that I might make a thread to scale Divine Spirits and Grand Servants to the Root, or at least downscale them from it. The Greater Grail already scales to it, and the Moon Cell probably should too for similar reasons.
was attempted and rejected a while backThis is reminds me that I might make a thread to scale Divine Spirits and Grand Servants to the Root, or at least downscale them from it. The Greater Grail already scales to it, and the Moon Cell probably should too for similar reasons.
Case Files establishes that Divine Spirits are connected to the Root, Fate/Grand Order establishes that Grand Servants are chosen by the Root (somehow), and the Greater Grail and the Moon Cell open a "hole" to the Root and use it to grant wishes.I think types are the one that should downscale, unless you have good evidence
Was it?was attempted and rejected a while back
not only does that contradict the narrative ( fgo profile says that she has a connection, and that she is born of it.), that conradicts the negative theology that the root uses ( or is at least tiered with.)dawg, she said it so many damn times
me, crystalvalley and a few other people have tried to explain the logic error that comes with this line of reasoningnot only does that contradict the narrative ( fgo profile says that she has a connection, and that she is born of it.), that conradicts the negative theology that the root uses ( or is at least tiered with.)
I find tiering it with Apoplectic Theology or whatever BS since the root is more accurate to being a fictional version of the Neoplatonist THE ONE. Arcueid even calls it the ONE outright in Tsukihime.not only does that contradict the narrative ( fgo profile says that she has a connection, and that she is born of it.), that conradicts the negative theology that the root uses ( or is at least tiered with.)
the two ideals dont exactly oppose each-other, both can be true.I find tiering it with Apoplectic Theology or whatever BS since the root is more accurate to being a fictional version of the Neoplatonist THE ONE. Arcueid even calls it the ONE outright in Tsukihime.
Was it?
I think there's more evidence and reason for it to be accepted nowadays.
the narrative where she says that she is the Root and as part of it? and because of being part of it, she herself is it?not only does that contradict the narrative ( fgo profile says that she has a connection, and that she is born of it.), that contradicts the negative theology that the root uses ( or is at least tiered with.)
ok lil brome, crystalvalley and a few other people have tried to explain the logic error that comes with this line of reasoning
This was born of 「 」 and shall one day reach 「 」. Separate the two polarities circling the Four SymbolsWP, and assemble the Eight TrigramsWP. Her existence is the manifestation of the world's principles.the narrative where she says that she is the Root and as part of it? and because of being part of it, she herself is it?
The moment you quote Wikipedia articles is the moment the world turns into ruin.This was born of 「 」 and shall one day reach 「 」. Separate the two polarities circling the Four SymbolsWP, and assemble the Eight TrigramsWP. Her existence is the manifestation of the world's principles.
what part of this was born of do you not understand . The root wouldnt be able to be marked for elimination by counter force
i copied a part of her fgo bio doesnt make it incorrect.The moment you quote Wikipedia articles is the moment the world turns into ruin.
Its meaning varied depending on each individual's understanding. To put it in simple terms, it was the Spiral of Origin.
However, since the Spiral of Origin was called the Spiral of Origin, it was no longer ' '.
I mean, sure, but without further elaboration that implies more or less nothing.i copied a part of her fgo bio doesnt make it incorrect.
I mean, giving it a name fails to grasp its essence, it's not any different from what we already know, no?At the very least, what do you think about this excerpt below?
Its meaning varied depending on each individual's understanding. To put it in simple terms, it was the Spiral of Origin.
However, since the Spiral of Origin was called the Spiral of Origin, it was no longer ' '.
thats the whole point. The root lacks any qualities or descriptive factors whatsoever and cannot be equalized to anything it's a spiral of pure nothingness. Shiki? she has several descriptive factors and qualities, ignoring the that Root = Shiki would be incorrect.I mean, giving it a name fails to grasp its essence, it's not any different from what we already know, no?
Base on the talk in discord with him, there's high chance its tier 0.
So then you're arguing, if I understood correctly, that Shiki will therefore not scale to the root anymore, right?thats the whole point. The root lacks any qualities or descriptive factors whatsoever and cannot be equalized to anything it's a spiral of pure nothingness. Shiki? she has several descriptive factors and qualities, ignoring the that Root = Shiki would be incorrect.
ok lil broHer existence is the manifestation of the world's principles.
Do you have Ultima on discord?On the commoners thread.
Base on the talk in discord with him, there's high chance its tier 0.
that doesnt mean equal to the root little brotherok lil bro
directly scale? no. but she still downscales due to her strong connection, the justifcation is just wrong.So then you're arguing, if I understood correctly, that Shiki will therefore not scale to the root anymore, right?
How can you downscale from a tier 0 force? It would make her void Shiki key "unknown" as a result, right?directly scale? no. but she still downscales due to her strong connection, the justifcation is just wrong.
Ultima said if you draw power from that force, its fine, as long as that force doesnt act on its own, since tier 0 forces by definition have to be non sentient.How can you downscale from a tier 0 force? It would make her void Shiki key "unknown" as a result, right?
Anyway have this. K thx.Nasuverse Roa Root Level Social Influencing
Michael Roa Valdamjong, more commonly known as Roa, of Tsukihime has been tricking us for the longest time. I have been searching tirelessly for proof. I have checked his page here, his Type Moon Wiki page, even on Discord. Every single source I have checked believed the same lie The Infinite...vsbattles.com
His exceptional point is that he took this soul, which is incalculable and something that disperses as soon as it leaves the envelope of the body, and processed it as something that could be transmitted."
From this theory it became clear that the soul can activate even without a physical body, and as such the soul has come to be treated as “the source of a person.”
The Root, a record of everything in the universe, is said to reside outside the World. It is the beginning and end of all creation. It is the ultimate goal of all magi. The Three Founding Families created the Holy Grail War system as a means to reach the Root.