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Nasuverse Discussion Board (New Forum)
- Thread starter DemonGodMitchAubin
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I also tried watching it, but ****, the pace is reallly... REALLY bad
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Sure, but knowledgeable members should be allowed to comment.
If you haven’t read DI, then I feel that talking about it’s philosophies a compared to other novels is disingenuous. Kara no Kyoukai is interesting and great as a novel, but DI’s better by a large margin. I’d say something like Tsukihime, Mahoyo, and FSN would be a better comparison.
As for Kajiri, it starts off a bit weird, but it ends up getting good pretty quickly. It delves into a lot of Eastern philosophy and into ideas of egoism, altruism, and more
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Just ignore it. It doesn’t exist. It’s literally disgusting
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It’s way too rushed
Tdjwo
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I think Kara no Kyoukai is the greatest piece of Eastern philosophical piece of fiction ever created. I don't see anything toping Nasu's philosophical writing. And I think it has way better philosophy than Fate or Tsukihime or Mahoyo.
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DI’s English translation is considered one of the best VN translations ever. It does have mistakes, but overall it’s pretty good. Try it out anyway, and go in with an open mind.
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I don’t think philosophy makes a work better. As for its philosophy. It was fine. DI was more interesting but that’s more cause I find more intrigue in Nietzschean ideas than what Kara no Kyoukai delves into. Doesn’t hurt that DI has better t characters than the majority of Nasuverse
Tdjwo
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I can forgive you for every other thing you said but don't even think of comparing Masada to Nasu I'm terms of characters ever. This is blasphemy! Nasuverse absolutely murders almost all of anime when it comes to characters.
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Not carrying the discussion much further, but read all the works first before making claims like this. Besides, I can still name at least 10 different anime characters above all of Nasuverse in writing.
But enough of this weird size comparison thing. How would you rate the different Nasuverse works you’ve read out of 10?
Overlord_Darkness
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Off-topic but I need to know. Does anyone here knows about Ninjago?
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Never heard of it. I only know Peakjago. But in all seriousness, it’s part of my childhood
Tdjwo
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They dont exist.
Kara no Kyoukai- 100/10
Tsukihime- 10/10
Fate Zero- 10/10
F/SN- 7/10
Realta Nua version- 9/10
Fate Hollow Ataraxia- 7/10
Angel Notes- Haven't read
Mahoyo- 8/10
FGO- Haven't finished playing but 8/10
Fate Strange Fake- 9/10
F/Heaven's feel- Only watched the movies. 10/10
Fate Kaleid- Never and might never watch it.
Carnival Phantasm- 5/10
Fate extra/CCC- 6-7/10
Fate extra last encore- 2/10(It's so bad)
Fate Apocrypha- 7.5/10(the ost's were so peak)
Overlord_Darkness
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I'm just working on the Overlord's page and wanted to do a little CRT on his immortality. Could you participate in it?
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The first few singularities drag it down. Even the worst of the Lostbelts don't get that dull.
Don't forget the sound design in general.
Karna vs Sieg is one of my favourite fights mostly for that. Vasavi Shakti was so damn well done.
Plus the effects (while over the top for some) were so good at emphasising the scale.
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Lots of ratings I probably wouldn’t agree with. FSN being a 7 seems wrong but it’s pacing was atrocious. Kara no Kyoukai was like a 7.5 imo. Good in its thematics, great even but its character left a bit to be desired.
FSN: 8.5
Fate Zero: 9
Tsukihime: 9.5
Kara no Kyoukai: 7.5
RN version: 8.5
FHA: 7
Angel Notes: 6
Mahoyo: 8.5
FSF: 8
Heaven’s Feel: 6 (9 for the movies)
Kaleid: 6
Carnival Phantasm: 6
CCC: 6
FELA: 3
FA: 7
As for that first part, guys like Johan Liebert are better than literally every character in Nasuverse. He’s arguably better than every VN character
Seeing as you put your stuff in, l’ll just out my Shinza ratings cause we’ve been on that topic
Dies Irae: 9.5
K3: 9
Ikabey: 10
Paradise Lost: 7.5
Avesta: 9
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Respectfully, you’re just objectively wrong. Like, on every possible level. The only one you could remotely compare to him would be Kirei or Shiki and even that’s a stretch.
I’ll say it again, I don’t think there’s a single VN character that’s better than him. Even the ones that are around his level like Beatrice, Mercurius, Kirei, Morgana, etc. aren’t actually better.
Tdjwo
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Well, that's your opinion, but I disagree.
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Sure that’s fine. I went a bit too far saying you were objectively wrong. You’re entitled to your opinion. Though I’ve never really seen a whole lot to convince me that any of the characters you named are remotely close to Johan apart from Kirei
Overlord_Darkness
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Is someone here well aware about Immortality Type 5?
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KingNanaya
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I am, I guess
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For people who argue that Zeus used his full power vs Kirschtaria Ideal Magecraft, does anyone have some reason?
It just doesn't add up. It not only makes no sense for him to use his full power, but when he actually does so vs we, chaldeans, it's put as such a big deal/Souls he incinerate will go byebye/World is ******.
It just doesn't add up. It not only makes no sense for him to use his full power, but when he actually does so vs we, chaldeans, it's put as such a big deal/Souls he incinerate will go byebye/World is ******.
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The translation outright says that Zeus wasn't at full power when they fought (though he tried to power up before Wodime could hit him, but it was too late), and I assume that the original says the same.
Kinda a shame we never actually got to see Zeus go beyond 35%.
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Yes, but I've seen more than a couple people arguing that Kirsch vs Zeus was "full power Zeus"...
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If it’s stated that he wasn’t at full power, then arguments against that are either cases of inconsistency or just blatantly incorrect
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That doesn’t make sense in anyway as even Kirsch himself admits that he went in to shock Zeus and make sure Zeus underestimated him massively until it was too late to actually get any bit Serious and that he inly won because Zeus’ pride stopped him from going seriously on a human.
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Or those people who argue 10% Zeus is a magnitude order above Altjuna when he lose to a fking meteor.
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Chad Indian Man vs Virgin Greece Kid
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But I didn't even mention Karna.
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Cringe
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This just in, Aztec gods gain a comceptual advantage against L Zeus.
Rakih_Elyan
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Turn into salt.
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Altjuna as a chad? That is indeed.
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Yes.
Completely off topic, why is Gilgamesh so downplayed by people discussing Nasuverse? It seems they can't stand how Chad he is.
KingNanaya
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because all they saw was him getting folded in UBW
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Genuinely, I've seen a guy say that Gilgamesh is weak because he lost to LuBu in Extella and to Sakura.
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Gilgamesh is human level. Couldn't even beat Shirou.
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Shirou wins by having more bitches
