This is exactly why I get pissed at those who claim Negative Theology scaling to Tier 0 is a NLF or compare it to omnipotence because of this very reason.
Because they don't understand it.
Tao has different aspects transcending each other so ehh, if you look at the wholeness aspect of it and the Ineffable aspect of it as an example too soo.
Well then, does God truly exist as a being?
No.
God is that emptiness that is the root but then again you can't define the root as "being" so the term God is kinda inappropriate for it but you can call it God for it being the highest existence and being responsible for all of creation.
But infinity in Tao despite sharing similarities with absolute infinity is not "God" it just shares characteristics of being distinguished from transfinite infinities and ineffable.
I meant that Solomon's story claims that God gave him 10 rings. Does it mean that God is something... Metaphysical that exist? Or the Root itself gave Solomon this 10 rings
If it refers to the root then, the obviously the name "God" means nothing considering the root goes by many names lol.
I'm beginning to think the Outer Gods in Fgo were directly gotten from Cthulhu Mythos.
No.
The reason is because it was specifically mentioned that they were derived from the popular fictional Mythos
Yes, many other mythological beings in the nasuverse can be equally referred to as "oh this God comes from the Greek mythology".
They did the same for chaos, such a basis is pretty horrid to say they are actual outer gods.
That is what I'm saying. Nasuverse doesn't have any Yog. The Yog-Sothoth in Nasuverse is directly from Cthulhu Mythos. I think we've been getting everything about Salem wrong.
No, they are just not; its bad enough they they don't share the names of the mythology they were inspired by. If one claims something is indistinguishable from another but yet there's atleast one property that distinguishes them then they are not indistinguishable. In this case it's simple their
names.
I don't need to remind anyone that yog's name is not sut typhon.
I have already said this many times. This is exactly the reason why Raum so referred to the Outer Gods at the beginning of Salem: he literally noted that these entities are literally from another universe that has nothing to do with their own at all
Chaos from the greek mythology and all machine gods come from another universe this means nothing at all...
Exactly.
There's no reason why we shouldn't scale Yog-Sothoth to OG one if they are exactly the same.
I strongly extremely disagree with this proposal but I shall consult don't talk Dt as I trust his judgment.
they're not the same, they're literally the same character.
Let me help you show you just how wrong that is rq. Let's break this down using basic tautology if we have A(Yog), A=A and A is A if and only if A. What that means is A has ontological relations to A that makes A, A. Now let's take one property of A (A's names which is Yog) it should have a relation to A to be A; Yog is Yog if he shares that one property of his name being Yog.
But that's not the case in the nasuverse he goes by the name sut typhon, so T(A=A) isn't applicable because A doesn't share every property of A to A, meaning Yog is distinguishable from Sut.
Hence they are not the same simple
does that mean Yog is not originated form the root?
He is, some people here are just confused nasuverse outer gods don't scale to real lovecraft outer gods, them being in the nasuverse in the first place is self defeating to the narrative portrayed in actual love craft.
This means that they are not connected in any way at all, since they exist in different verses
Coming from a different universe doesn't mean you're not from the nasuverse, No.
All of those outer gods are just victims of the Root cope.
As we can see, Raum refers to Lovecraft's mythology, which he described in his books, as Yog-Sothoth (which is even correct, since the entire verse of Cthulhu Mythos exists as Yog-Sothoth). In fact, the words about mythology mean a lot, because it also means the existence of the Ultimate Void beyond the Final Gate.
We can also observe how Raum reacts to Zepar's words about Parallel Universes. "That's beyond us" I think should clearly explain what I wrote above.
That's how every mythology works in the nasuverse too, that's not a special thing.
Logically, this would be because of the root
I'd like to clarify that the root doesn't get involved with creation it just drives creation its not sentient its just nothingness I don't see why the root would do that.
Not exactly. Gilles describes the Outer Universe and the Outer Gods as something that cannot exist in the Nasuverse universe at all
He never said that, he specified "the universe". Not the nasuverse.
He also noted that the only way for Outer Gods to interact with the Nasuverse verse is through servants in the Throne of Heroes
Once again misinterpreting the actual source material they never said the nasuverse, like uhhh do you think fictional characters like him are aware that they are in the nasuverse
Ahem anyways he just said "our universe" lol
In fact, Root and Yog-Sothoth from different verses. As you can see, Gilles states that only way to them to appear in the Nasuverse is through Throne of Heroes. That means that Yog-Sothoth have zero influences upon Nasuverse as well as the Root upon Cthulhu Mythos
No.
This is also combined with the words of Lavinia, because if we consider the Outer Universe to be the Cthulhu Mythos verse, then the Yog is really an all-encompassing unity, but for his own verse and it appears in Nasuverse just like tentacle with some power.
All encompassing unity that is excluding the root lel
Raum made a hole in the laws of the world, which allowed Outer Gods to manifest in servants. We can assume that they do not pass through the Root, but rather go around it, because, as Gilles de Rais said, the Nasuverse itself is impenetrable and impossible for them to penetrate.
This is getting ridiculous and it's becoming a comedy show, the root encompasses all of creation as it's aspect of the akashic records how do you go around something that encompasses creation omnidirectionally so.
If we are talking about verses, then it is not necessary to put the Root above everything, exactly the same as the Yog-Sothoth. All we know for sure is that the root refers to the Nasuverse verse and nothing more. If we are talking about External Gods, then only breaking the rules allows them to manifest themselves and then in a limited form with the help of servants, which does not violate the influence of the Root inside the Nasuverse.
It is also worth noting that Cthulhu Mythos for Nasuverse are really fictional stories. For the entire Nasuverse.
This is a reach stop lol lovecraft of the nasuverse is solely of the nasuverse not the actual one.
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