Naruto versus DBZ is finally real, and the ninja protagonist takes on some cannon fodder to carve his path!

[Mand21]

er, I can't be sure.

And yeah, speed equalized. Editing it on Saibaman's profile. If someone here is staff, can you add it into Naruto's?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

we have to wait 24 hours ^_^

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I feel like those reasoning are unfaunded, so even as a joke, those alone are not quiet good enough

 

[Mand21]

As Ricsi said.

Hey, Shadow, you can edit Naruto. e-e

pls I wanna have Naruto fight a 5-A fodder next

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

yeah

 

[Mand21]

do it grr I'm gonna have Naruto fight a 5-A fodder next

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

done this can be closed

 

[Mand21]

Who can close this? Normal members can't.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Discussion Mods

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Saibaman FRA

 

[Mand21]

No valid arguments above, tho. >.>

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

Shit.

I thought the suicide saibaman attack was undefeatable.

 

[Theglassman12]

@Shrek I mean, we're talking about someone who ***** out clones every day. It's most likely not gonna work.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Shit.
I thought the suicide saibaman attack was undefeatable.

Naruto gives it a filosophical speech, convinces it to become a foodfuy and eventualy creates an army of saibamen who would train an kill nappa.

 

[ShrekAlmighty]

I switch my vote to Naruto for Ricsis reasoning.

 

[Golden_Void]

Playing dead -> suicide bomber is a classic Saibaman technique, it worked on Yamcha ƒæÇ

 

[Schnee_One]

AP =/= Speed, if you're over twice as fast, it's nearly impossible for you to even hit the target.

This is completely wrong.

 

[Mand21]

New fodder battle here.

 

[Theglassman12]

How's it wrong?

 

[Schnee_One]

You say that only being twice as fast makes it nearly impossible to hit your opponent regardless of the difference in expirience, accounting abilities, or anything.

If the slower opponent has certain abilities on there side as well as Distance, whether to a decent degree or even a huge degree, even an over 3x advantage doesn't guarantee your win.

Mami Tomoe is a perfect example of this, especially in her fights against Kyoko Sakura and her clones

With distance and superior skill in mind a 3x advantage is rendered moot if said slower opponent can continuously keep the distance.

Speaking of Distance one must also consider the amount of time it takes for someone to cross the distance before their opponent can lead with an instant kill Hax.

If a Mach 1000. Character were too have to think to kill a Relativistic opponent from 4KM away before that character can blitz, the Mach 1000 character will make that thought before their opponent can get to them.

Even without the distance in mind if opponent A is only 3x faster then B, But B contains a massive expirience and Skill advantage then the opponent can be overcome and defeated without it being "Nearly Impossible" (See a wide variety of Ape Man and Black Panther fights) especially with fights where characters slower still have precognition or attack reflection.

TLDR No, it's not nearly impossible to hit your opponent if their 2x or even 3.5x faster especially when you consider the difference in expirience, abilities and occasionally distance.

 

[Theglassman12]

And Saibamen has shown nothing in all 3 of those categories to make up for the speed difference.

 

[Schnee_One]

What's your point?

 

[The_Causality]

.... Naruto FRA

 

[Theglassman12]

He can't react to Naruto at all since nothing in his arsenal helps him with the speed gap.

 

[Schnee_One]

A measly 2x speed advantage means it's impossible to react to Naruto apparently

That's totally because of the speed, not Naruto's superior expirience and intelligence, not at all.

 

[Golden_Void]

A measly 2x speed advantage means it's impossible to react to Naruto apparently
That's totally because of the speed, not Naruto's superior expirience and intelligence, not at all.

Debating Naruto 101: You're always wrong

 

[Theglassman12]

Above 2X speed advantage. Also have you forgotten why we even equalize speeds in the first place?

 

[Schnee_One]

Because 99% of fights are beyond 5x...…?

I haven't forgotten, clearly you have.

 

[Theglassman12]

If I have forgotten about it, then I wouldn't have equalized speeds in the first place for any matchup.

 

[Schnee_One]

Debating Naruto 101: You're always wrong

IDK if you're saying it as in you disagree with me or you're agreeing with me

 

[Golden_Void]

Agreeing.

 

[Schnee_One]

If I have forgotten about it, then I wouldn't have equalized speeds in the first place for any matchup.

Don't put words in my mouth, obviously certain speed differences are blitzes, like the majority of the fire emblem matches

This isn't one of those cases

 

[Avieliyahu]

Naruto FRA.

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh right I forgot

Naruto for the solid reasons above

 

[Theglassman12]

Because 99% of fights are beyond 5x...…?
I haven't forgotten, clearly you have.

How am I putting words in your mouth when you yourself said it?

 

[Schnee_One]

then I wouldn't have equalized speeds in the first place for any matchup.

Simple, you said this.

You're comparing "any matchup" To those such as this where the speed difference is negligible

 

[The_Causality]

Hmmmm.......

 

[Theglassman12]

Over 2X speed advantage is hardly negligible. But I digress

 

[Schnee_One]

I'd rather not requote literally all of what I just typed debunking that, so I leave with an "Eh" and a thread where speed doesn't help, and be done. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1260646

 

[Mand21]

Over 2X speed advantage is hardly negligible. But I digress

It's not negligible, just not stompy. Though yeah, it could result in a stomp given all the advantages piled up.