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Naruto versus DBZ is finally real, and the ninja protagonist takes on some cannon fodder to carve his path!
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we have to wait 24 hours ^_^
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I feel like those reasoning are unfaunded, so even as a joke, those alone are not quiet good enough
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yeah
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done this can be closed
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Saibaman FRA 
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Shit.
I thought the suicide saibaman attack was undefeatable.
I thought the suicide saibaman attack was undefeatable.
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@Shrek I mean, we're talking about someone who ***** out clones every day. It's most likely not gonna work.
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Naruto gives it a filosophical speech, convinces it to become a foodfuy and eventualy creates an army of saibamen who would train an kill nappa.ShrekAlmighty said:
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I switch my vote to Naruto for Ricsis reasoning.
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Playing dead -> suicide bomber is a classic Saibaman technique, it worked on Yamcha ƒæÇ
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This is completely wrong.Theglassman12 said:
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How's it wrong?
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You say that only being twice as fast makes it nearly impossible to hit your opponent regardless of the difference in expirience, accounting abilities, or anything.
If the slower opponent has certain abilities on there side as well as Distance, whether to a decent degree or even a huge degree, even an over 3x advantage doesn't guarantee your win.
Mami Tomoe is a perfect example of this, especially in her fights against Kyoko Sakura and her clones
With distance and superior skill in mind a 3x advantage is rendered moot if said slower opponent can continuously keep the distance.
Speaking of Distance one must also consider the amount of time it takes for someone to cross the distance before their opponent can lead with an instant kill Hax.
If a Mach 1000. Character were too have to think to kill a Relativistic opponent from 4KM away before that character can blitz, the Mach 1000 character will make that thought before their opponent can get to them.
Even without the distance in mind if opponent A is only 3x faster then B, But B contains a massive expirience and Skill advantage then the opponent can be overcome and defeated without it being "Nearly Impossible" (See a wide variety of Ape Man and Black Panther fights) especially with fights where characters slower still have precognition or attack reflection.
TLDR No, it's not nearly impossible to hit your opponent if their 2x or even 3.5x faster especially when you consider the difference in expirience, abilities and occasionally distance.
If the slower opponent has certain abilities on there side as well as Distance, whether to a decent degree or even a huge degree, even an over 3x advantage doesn't guarantee your win.
Mami Tomoe is a perfect example of this, especially in her fights against Kyoko Sakura and her clones
With distance and superior skill in mind a 3x advantage is rendered moot if said slower opponent can continuously keep the distance.
Speaking of Distance one must also consider the amount of time it takes for someone to cross the distance before their opponent can lead with an instant kill Hax.
If a Mach 1000. Character were too have to think to kill a Relativistic opponent from 4KM away before that character can blitz, the Mach 1000 character will make that thought before their opponent can get to them.
Even without the distance in mind if opponent A is only 3x faster then B, But B contains a massive expirience and Skill advantage then the opponent can be overcome and defeated without it being "Nearly Impossible" (See a wide variety of Ape Man and Black Panther fights) especially with fights where characters slower still have precognition or attack reflection.
TLDR No, it's not nearly impossible to hit your opponent if their 2x or even 3.5x faster especially when you consider the difference in expirience, abilities and occasionally distance.
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And Saibamen has shown nothing in all 3 of those categories to make up for the speed difference.
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What's your point?
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.... Naruto FRA
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He can't react to Naruto at all since nothing in his arsenal helps him with the speed gap.
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A measly 2x speed advantage means it's impossible to react to Naruto apparently
That's totally because of the speed, not Naruto's superior expirience and intelligence, not at all.
That's totally because of the speed, not Naruto's superior expirience and intelligence, not at all.
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Debating Naruto 101: You're always wrongGargoyle One said:
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Above 2X speed advantage. Also have you forgotten why we even equalize speeds in the first place?
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Because 99% of fights are beyond 5x...…?
I haven't forgotten, clearly you have.
I haven't forgotten, clearly you have.
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If I have forgotten about it, then I wouldn't have equalized speeds in the first place for any matchup.
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Debating Naruto 101: You're always wrong
IDK if you're saying it as in you disagree with me or you're agreeing with me
IDK if you're saying it as in you disagree with me or you're agreeing with me
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Agreeing.
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Don't put words in my mouth, obviously certain speed differences are blitzes, like the majority of the fire emblem matchesTheglassman12 said:
This isn't one of those cases
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Naruto FRA.
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Oh right I forgot
Naruto for the solid reasons above
Naruto for the solid reasons above
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How am I putting words in your mouth when you yourself said it?Gargoyle One said:
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Simple, you said this.Theglassman12 said:
You're comparing "any matchup" To those such as this where the speed difference is negligible
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Hmmmm.......
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Over 2X speed advantage is hardly negligible. But I digress
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I'd rather not requote literally all of what I just typed debunking that, so I leave with an "Eh" and a thread where speed doesn't help, and be done. https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1260646
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