MinatoSparkle
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What if we agree to disagree since I assume your opinion is unchanged as is mineAs soon as I get comfortable and think I’m free!!
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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I won't be having such a huge argument over such a small difference in the speed revisions
(now about notable differences...)
I guess we'll see...
That makes sense since Death Note dropped off a cliff in its latter half, and YYH is of comparable quality to Naruto I'd say, at least at its best. So you favoring Naruto over both isn't something that surprises me.I have seen some anime considered among the best ever like Death Note and Yu Yu Hakusho and still have Naruto as the best I've seen
Also, just to be clear, I do think Naruto is really good. Probably really underrated too like I said above. But it definitely has a lot of flaws. It might be my favorite manga ever, but I do not think it is the best one objectively speaking.
That's fair.
I know this wasn't directed at me, but personally I just think they're ~, with Minato having better reactions and probably shunshin speed.Reaction speed and Shunshin aren't really the main topics. I think you could basically sum it up as I think Minato~>Obito and Neo thinks Obito~>Minato, which sounds kind of funny to have essay wars about when I say it like that
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name one that's better (except aot) ill wait
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What's funny is that AoT isn't even better than Naruto
MinatoSparkle
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I guess we'll see...
I probably have Naruto above the first half of Death Note in isolation too
Tbh I think its flaws are quite overstated. Which you seem to think too given that you think it's underrated, but I think the flaws are over over stated then
I mean...I find it kind of odd to say that Shunshin would be a different amp for different characters. It's generally portrayed that when people are relative in cqc, they're also relative in travel (think stuff like Sasuke and Kinshiki flying all across Kaguya's courtyard and also clashing relatively)
Dam really? So many ppl I've seen thinking Naruto is like an 8 or smthn talk about how AoT is peak animanga and tier gaps Naruto (even saw someone say it tier gaps Naruto 8 times over which I find very sus)What's funny is that AoT isn't even better than Naruto
MinatoSparkle
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Yeah, let’s bring an end to the essay wars.
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But on a serious note, I'll try to get back on the CRT train starting next month. Whether we do speed first, or we adjust AP due to all of the changes (UES stuff and Konoha size) that happened to the verse in that past year, I'm still not sure tbh.
Also not a crazy take in my eyes. I think Naruto at its best > DN at its best.I probably have Naruto above the first half of Death Note in isolation too
I don't agree with most of the popular flaws people bring up. In fact, I think most of them are stupid. There are actual flaws, though. It's just that they're overshadowed by the idiotic popular takes we hear all the time.Tbh I think its flaws are quite overstated. Which you seem to think too given that you think it's underrated, but I think the flaws are over over stated then
Notice how I said "probably"? Also, you can absolutely have different levels of proficiency in the use of the same technique.
AoT is massively overrated in my opinion. It's good, but the people acting like it's the second coming of Berserk are smoking some good shit.
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This shit is raw as ****.
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I am of the opinion that naruto is better but I don't think its blatantly wrong of a take as saying something like one piece or bleach being above narutoWhat's funny is that AoT isn't even better than Naruto
That does not answer my question tho
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Bleach >~ Naruto is probably easier to argue than AoT >> Naruto.
Okay.
Berserk, Slam Dunk, Vagabond, Ghost in the Shell, Akira, HxH, FMA/B,
High-key, I'm only scratching the surface with these.
I think "Naruto is the best/one of the best Shonen of all time" is probably a more realistic claim to defend. But best animanga ever is IMHO a bit of a stretch.
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Also I'm pretty sure my takes wouldn't have gotten widespread agreement
I vote speed personally since it's probably more outdated (also Minato) but up to y'all
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Sure, I think Naruto and Sasuke's relationship could've been developed more in P1, some of the earlier Shippuden arcs weren't amazing, and I'm not quite sure how I feel about the political resolution of the story, but ion think the flaws are enough to bring it down from top tier.
True. Whether it's BF or general speed though, Minato should overall be faster cause of him being the fastest ninja in the world (全忍随一の神速を誇る武勇の誉れは、他里の猛者をも魅了する！). I guess you could also say FTG but I find that iffy since it's not technically speed.
I shall take ur word for it until I see it myself
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holy sneak ive read most of these and some of these either dont come close (uzumaki, grand blue, fmab) or still inferior
Bl-...okay now it all makes sense nvm then
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Well, it ain't a crime to have bad taste.
I'm not really a Bleach fan if that's what you're insinuating.
MinatoSparkle
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This is an interesting statement
A lil unfortunate that it probably can't be used for YM Obito's AP cause non-UES
A lil unfortunate that it probably can't be used for YM Obito's AP cause non-UES
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Wouldn’t it automatically just scale him over the likes of the Sanin in a general sense?This is an interesting statement
A lil unfortunate that it probably can't be used for YM Obito's AP cause non-UES
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I’ve also seen this used for scaling online as well:
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I always figured this meant Minato considered Masked Man Obito to be way above everyone else in the Akatsuki considering he doesn't even think Pain is much of a threat compared to him.I’ve also seen this used for scaling online as well:
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This + The Flashback Fight + The Minato One Shot could inform this tbh.
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One Piece and Bleach slaughter AOT effortlessly wdym
MinatoSparkle
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It does in "power," but idk if considering site standards, it can be assumed that power to control and summon a creature = AP
I use this to put YM Obito close to KCM2 Naruto in speed since it's implied Naruto needs to master Kurama's power to even stand a chance against him, as if it'd still be a tough fight with it (highkey consistent).I’ve also seen this used for scaling online as well:
HelloThere1089
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Pipe down lil bro. Nobody is forcing anything on you. You have the right to say Naruto is the best in your opinion, and I have the right to say your opinion is ass. Crazy you couldn't fathom that. It's not that deep.
Also, I never called Naruto mediocre trash. I called it good. You know what Naruto deserves? A fanbase that can read, but you're not helping at all.
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Imo, the Naruto franchise is a solid 9/10.
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This is so real oml.What's funny is that AoT isn't even better than Naruto
Great choices. Anything from Urasawa is gonna be good. Not to mention this isn't even taking into account the movies, shows, novels from around the world. There have been so many stories throughout humanity's history, and to claim Naruto is the best humanity has to offer is wild.
A while back I said in this thread that people need to read more seinen. I was right.
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it's fine if you are, it's just a little surprising to see odd title(s) placed above naruto in your view
MinatoSparkle
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MLP, Avatar, Ace Attorney, Captain America: Civil War, and Endgame
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put the phone down my friend
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Lego Star Wars clears Naruto
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Tell me about it
Yeah, of course. I was just focused on well known anime and manga IPs to prove a point. If we included movies, tv shows, novels, video games, etc, we'd literally be here all day.
Reading all the comments so far, this is so real. Like, I'm not even what I'd consider a media snob, but people really need to get out of their comfort zone before making crazy claims. And again, I do think Naruto is pretty great. I just don't think it's the Citizen Kane or The Godfather of animanga is all lol.
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If you actually think AOT beats One Piece and Bleach, go home.
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Lego Ninjago is the top ninja series of all time tbh.
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it's so weird that you'll see a statement that praises a series most likely in a hyperbolic sense and try to overanalyze it and take it hyper literally to try and put it down instead of just ignoring it and a fanbase that thinks seinens are better isnt what it needs either, a good shonen clears a good seinen, most of them are overrated as hell and people that gas it have no idea why it's good and only ride the bangwagon
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To be fair, there's a lot of riding going on in the Bangwagon.
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for the sake of my sanity and wanting this not to get more heated I will consider this satire and leave it at that
MinatoSparkle
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Non-Shonen manga in general. Ya Boy Kongming, Oshi no Ko, Angel Beats, Hikaru no Go, Bakuman, Spy X Family (this is technically a Shonen but it's really not), etc., are great (
HelloThere1089
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Why do I get the feeling that you're 17-18?
HelloThere1089
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Iirc, Spy x Family is a Shonen. So is Bakuman.
Edit: Missed the technically shonen part. My b.
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