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Can you send the picture?
"It took Naruto to snap him back to his senses", so when did he come back to his senses? Since he worked together with Naruto? The scan where BM Minato got blitzed happened after Minato and Naruto worked together
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
"It took Naruto to snap him back to his senses", so when did he come back to his senses? Since he worked together with Naruto? The scan where BM Minato got blitzed happened after Minato and Naruto worked together
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This never happened. And I can't send picture.
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Bro roots are coming from all directions. This isn't a blitz , it's just faster coz obito overall is faster? What's your point?Huh?
Why can't you send the picture?
Also kcm minato and base minato are in same tier does not mean they are same speed. Base minato has relativistic reactions but sub rel combat speed. Kcm minato has full on rel combat speed and higher reactions
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That's a weak argument. You claim the roots are coming from all directions despite coming from the same point, and it doesn't affect at all because the roots come from in front of Minato, but still, he can't react, do you forget Minato has hiraishin? This suggests that BM Minato's reaction speed and this version of BSM Naruto's reaction speed are slower than the version of BSM Naruto that work together with EMS Sasuke againt Juubito. But magically, Base Minato has a relativistic reaction speed rating, the same rating as BSM Naruto that work together with EMS Sasuke againt Juubito. That rating is wrong because he can't react to the big God Tree Root that slower than controlled Juubito's flight speed that tracked by the latter BSM Naruto. Can't you understand a sentence? Clearly, what I said is reaction speed
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I'm going to reiterate the thing I said about Momoshiki.
We know that a Chakra Fruit has the Planets Rotational energy + whatever energy the civilization there has.
So
1 Fruit = 61.6~ Exatons (5-C)
We know that Momoshiki devoured at least 2 worlds, ergo:
Base Momoshiki = 123.2 Exatons (5-C)
Fused Momoshiki = 50% SPSM Naruto = 246.4 Exatons (5-C)
100% SPSM Naruto = 492.8 Exatons (Low 5-B)
Jigen (Horn) >= MAS Naruto & Sasuke at least 985.6 Exatons (Low 5-B)
Isshiki > Jigen = At least Low 5-B
We know that a Chakra Fruit has the Planets Rotational energy + whatever energy the civilization there has.
So
1 Fruit = 61.6~ Exatons (5-C)
We know that Momoshiki devoured at least 2 worlds, ergo:
Base Momoshiki = 123.2 Exatons (5-C)
Fused Momoshiki = 50% SPSM Naruto = 246.4 Exatons (5-C)
100% SPSM Naruto = 492.8 Exatons (Low 5-B)
Jigen (Horn) >= MAS Naruto & Sasuke at least 985.6 Exatons (Low 5-B)
Isshiki > Jigen = At least Low 5-B
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No, he's just absorbing NE from his surroundings like everyone else.
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Seems to be the same as other regular SM users such as Naruto (Pre Haghost) and Minato, though he seems to be able to enter it faster and retain it longer than them, and it seems his body is able to contain some amount of Senjutsu Chakra even though he isn't in Sage Mode
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I won't repeat myself again, I don't understand what your issue is exactly tbh.
1. Yes the roots are faster than him, same as the person using them I.e juubito
2. Kcm naruto also got caught by those roots. Actually kcm+sage mode naruto. Juubito is simply faster than all of them. This is irrelevant to the conversation .
3. 2 people can be relativistic and 1 is faster than the other. Like bro it is math.
4. Base minato is sub relativistic with rel reactions, kcm minato is full on relativistic and would have higher reactions. Does this 2 things look like same speed to you? Like bro read the profiles
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Bro just talked about flight speed and reaction speed in same sentence. Your confusion amazes me. OBITO AND HIS ROOTS ARE FASTER THAN MINATO. naruto stacked sage mode on top of kcm. At that point he was faster than minato. Worst part is those same roots still captured him
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Bro have you forgotten you are on vsbw? You need to prove output too. Also this is a horrific lowball
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Salty much?
Unlike the Chibaku Tensei, this isn't a special technique type thing, it's just the amount of Chakra (low-balled, since we can't calculate in the amount of Chakra biomass has, just raw energy should be around 5.37225656e+21 Joules which is super irrelevant) they'd have.
And, given the context, it'd be consistent. Saying that Momoshiki is the same strength as Toneri is wild, and this proves a very clear cut way to get a proper value.
There's also the fact that Code could tank this amount of energy very easily and it had basically no effect on him damage wise (other than the weird perception manipulation thing)
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Also in what part is it a lowball.
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See, you don't understand at all. I already said that version of BSM Naruto, where BSM stands for Bijuu Sage Mode in case you didn't know, is weaker than the version of BSM that collaborates with Senjutsu Susanoo EMS Sasuke because he gets all the remaining chakra from BM Minato. And he tracked Juubito's flight speed. I already mentioned that Juubito's flight speed is faster than his big God Tree Root speed because it poses a challenge to the stronger BSM Naruto. So, Base Minato shouldn't have the same reaction speed as the version of BSM Naruto that collaborating with Senjutsu Susanoo Sasuke. Who's bringing up physical speed, lol? I clearly typed reaction speed from the beginning, learn to read and understand sentences
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Is this a reading issue? Like can you genuinely not read profiles?
Base minato does not have same reaction speed as juubito fight bsm naruto. He has same reaction speed as kcm2 naruto. I'd advice you to read profiles carefully. This is how the profile is
Base minato: relativistic reactions
Kcm2 naruto: relativistic reaction and combat speed, followed by, "higher in sage mode".
Bsm naruto literally has a "higher key" to show you it is above the relativistic that minato scales to
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Bro like what? Salty much? Naruto is my verse bro why would I be Salty. I'm simply telling you that if you can't prove they can output that amount of energy they got from the fruit in one attack people would contest what you just did a lot. And it's an extreme lowball coz momo did not eat "2 fruits". The statement "finally a good harvest" does not indicate he ate one before and now a second. It would indicate he had eaten several before that one at least and was not satisfied. So 4 is like the safest lowball
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I guess it was already retyped because I remember its speed being relativistic back then
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Actually scratch that. If boruto can produce the energy in a go then I think it make sense the otsusuki can
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It has always been, relativistic in kcm2 and higher in sage mode. It's coz no multipliers. If the 10x multiplier was accepted it would have been ftl
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Forget it. Now, how can EMS Sasuke, who was against Juubito, only have relativistic reaction speed, not with his physical speed? When clearly he always hit Juubito's TSB simultaneously with BSM Naruto
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Naa that key is not for senjustu susanoo. To be fair I think that key was omitted
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Do you really think that Juugo's senjutsu makes an upgrade from sub relativistic to relativistic? What is the proof?
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The proof is the feat. Like ion know what to tell you. You can make a crt if you think sasuke should get full rating
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And why does the controlled Juubito have a rating of at least relativistic, like it's not clearly relativistic, despite reacting to all of BSM Naruto and Senjutsu EMS Sasuke's attacks, even blitzing them with chakra arms without any attempt to block or anything?
The slash of Senjutsu Susanoo Sasuke's sword and the arm of BSM Naruto's avatar equals the flight speed of controlled Juubito because it forces him to block, those are feats for their battle speed. And controlled Juubito blitzes them with chakra arms, which is a speed feat for Juubito's battle speed. So, the scaling chain is :
BSM avatar and Senjutsu Susanoo sunshin speed < Juubito flight speed < BSM avatar and Senjutsu Susanoo battle speed < Juubito battle speed
The slash of Senjutsu Susanoo Sasuke's sword and the arm of BSM Naruto's avatar equals the flight speed of controlled Juubito because it forces him to block, those are feats for their battle speed. And controlled Juubito blitzes them with chakra arms, which is a speed feat for Juubito's battle speed. So, the scaling chain is :
BSM avatar and Senjutsu Susanoo sunshin speed < Juubito flight speed < BSM avatar and Senjutsu Susanoo battle speed < Juubito battle speed
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We use "at least" rating to show the person is clearly above that speed calc it is assigned to. While the rest are "relativistic " , juubito is "at least relativistic " to show his speed is probably much higher but we can't quantify how much higher
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Now why is 7th Gate Guy's Hirudora is stated to destroy Madara's Susanoo even though it's not shown, despite his biggest 7th Gate Hirudora failing to create a hole in Kisame's body?
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Classic Kisame W.
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Can't wait to make the staff die by posting a CRT the moment the current downgrade gets put out.
I honestly kinda feel bad for the staff bc the narutoverse is constantly being thrown around with crts it's prob hella annoying to deal with.
I'll probably wait for the new chapter to drop first tho
I honestly kinda feel bad for the staff bc the narutoverse is constantly being thrown around with crts it's prob hella annoying to deal with.
I'll probably wait for the new chapter to drop first tho
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Guy clearly channeled his inner Tobirama on Madara.
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Remember, that is just base Kisame without fusing with Samehada, and Cloaked Bee hurt him more than Guy
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His Hirudora is smaller than the one he used on Kisame
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That was a joke but okay
also since when size = potency , did i miss something ?
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The condition is that it must be the same jutsu, it can't be compared if it's a different jutsu. Now both are the same jutsu. If a jutsu is bigger than usual, it means it has more chakra. Remember basic Rasengan with Odama Rasengan, it just adds more chakra to the jutsu, so more powerfull
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I can also think of a few cases where condensing the technique make it stronger , like how 4 tail naruto did with his bomb.
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It was shown bro. Did you watch naruto?
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Minato only has Rel reaction speed atm, that's not gonna allow him to run away from big ass God Tree roots, and anyways the speed ratings for most characters are outdated af and r gonna we revised by Slayer (tho I'm gonna have a field day with that now that I know he thinks Minato~Ay)
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But, yeah, y'all have been waffling on for hours about outdated and shit speed ratings and justifications lol. Though, hey, good news. Speed revisions should start soon-ish. We'll start with Part I, which I assume most of you don't care about as much, but still. It's something.
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