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Wait wasn't Shadow finalizing it?
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
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From what they've been saying in discord (they've been fairly inactive), they've been super swamped with work and barely has time during their free time to do stuff.
EDIT: I'm not actually sure if they're actually finalizing it, I haven't heard anything about that, but I do know that they've been saying that work has been incredibly hectic which is why they've been inactive.
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MinatoSparkle
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Yes
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They do, yes.
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Can anyone do it? If so I'll try and help with the profiles that have it and aren't locked when I have some free time.
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If you convert it to YT, yes. But I didn't, because I was too lazy to
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I didn’t think people read it so I wanted more to see it. If that’s the case then yeah it’s dead
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I didn't mean to pick on you specifically. It's just a very old misconception that I wish would die out already.
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MinatoSparkle
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Wild how Orochimaru is stated to rival Jiraiya even though he has Sage Mode 
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I mean duh that Pre Reaper Death Seal Orochimaru=Old Jiraiya
Post Resurrection Oro though....he bending over Jiraiya
Post Resurrection Oro though....he bending over Jiraiya
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Oh really ? How do I get it open back then?
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Ask a staff member to open it again
MinatoSparkle
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A lot of people (and the wiki) says P1 Orochimaru~Base Jiraiya, and that SM Jiraiya's significantly stronger
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I personally think
Base Oro~Base Jiraiya
8 Headed Dragon Serpent Oro~SM Jiraiya
Pre Reaper Death Seal Oro that is
MinatoSparkle
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I think 4T Naruto scaling would still suggest Base Orochimaru's superiority to Base Jiraiya
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I mean 4 Tails naruto was kinda bodying post ts oro
which is pretty consistent with him perma scarring a holding back base jiraiya
also further shows the consistency for the sannin being on par with each other
which is pretty consistent with him perma scarring a holding back base jiraiya
also further shows the consistency for the sannin being on par with each other
MinatoSparkle
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He had the upper hand but Orochimaru was putting up quite a fight, evading his chakra arm, temporarily restraining it, tagging and knocking Naruto back, surviving his Bijuudama, and pushing him hundreds of meters away. The Naruto Official Website even says they fought on equal footing (though could definitely be an exaggeration, given that it also says Base Hashirama fought on par with the Majestic Attire Susanoo).
Can't really be used to upscale Jiraiya given that Orochimaru was nerfed.
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5A upgrade for some boruto characters
characters such as Ishikki, full power Jigen, no limiter Code, Daemon and Eida should all be upgraded to 5a via a 10x multiplier from Kashin koji vs Jigen fight. Kashin koji is rated currently on the wiki as 5b for being comparable to delta. he was also confident on taking her on here Amado then...
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What thread
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exactlyWhat thread
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totally
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If you are all simply going to remove the energy values, it should not be very hard, but if you want them listed via a notes section, you need to check the following pages to handle it properly.So this is a thing apparently.
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Sparkle, man, why are you like this? Stop being such a goon.....Wild how Orochimaru is stated to rival Jiraiya even though he has Sage Mode
Like, I don't even know where this is from, so I doubt it's really relevant anyway, but like, did you miss the part where the statement also compares Orochimaru's power with Tsunade? So, what, are we supposed to scale Orochimaru to Byakugo Tsunade physically now too......? Like gimme a break, man. This is obviously not meant to be taken too literally. It's absolutely no different from the statement that says Jiraiya rivals Orochimaru in power, it changes nothing.
Sparkle, stop it. Orochimaru does NOT scale to KN4 Naruto in any capacity (via their fight, anyway). Like, you'd have to read that fight with some Curse Mark tinted glasses to come to the conclusion that Orochimaru scales.
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"A Slayer's cope never ends" - Blackbeard
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Somebody or somebodies need to handle this, if it has not been done already.If you are all simply going to remove the energy values, it should not be very hard, but if you want them listed via a notes section, you need to check the following pages to handle it properly.
Standard Format for Character Profiles
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MinatoSparkle
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No worries
Naruto Official site, though I will say after looking at the raws it seems to be saying something different. But no I wasn't comparing Oro to 100H Tsunade as there's no evidence she even had that jutsu until P2 (she had the 2 separate jutsu that formed it in P1), and I doubt it's about WA versions as Jiraiya was dead.
The difference that people like to claim with that is Kishimoto hadn't thought of/introduced Sage Mode yet.
We've had this exact conversation before and didn't you end up agreeing with me that the 3T part is iffy? Anyways there's no doubt that Orochimaru scales in terms of speed, he reacts too many times to deny that. Obviously KN4 Naruto's AP/Durability is greater, it's just not so much greater that Orochimaru can't even budge him or disperse his attack enough for his body to remain intact.
MinatoSparkle
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Ig the question is whether to keep the energy values as notes or remove them entirely
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Can you link me to a profile that currently uses this new format?
Might be willing to add it for a verse I'm currently working on
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I mean, not the most solid source in the world, and certainly wouldn't supersede the manga, but it's fine ig.
Anyway, what does it actually say? Cause I've seen a lot of the raws for the Sannin statements, and most of them pretty much say that the three of them are held in the same esteem, or occupy the same rank, things along these lines. Basically, it speaks to their status as the Sannin, rather than being a power thing necessarily. At least from what I've seen for the most part.
I know you weren't
I remember. We decided to make a compromise to move things along, which was to add that "Orochimaru wasn't all that concerned about Nard until he reached KN4", or something along those lines iirc. While that is true, it really doesn't mean a whole lot on its own. Orochimaru is arrogant as hell, and I can pull several examples of him not being very "concerned" about someone, only for him to get absolutely shat on later lol. It also doesn't change that we only see him get physically outclassed by Naruto, and absolutely nothing else. A punch that did zero damage doesn't change that fact.
As for speed, I don't see the relevance this even has to the discussion. Most of these people scale to the same level of speed, more or less, and speed isn't really always linear in a 1:1 fashion with AP. So, yes, Orochimaru can be in the same speed tier as KN4, while still getting his shit kicked in by him in terms of physical strength.
Also, bringing up him surviving the Bijuu dama is funny. We know for a fact that he would've died had he been hit by it directly, he said so himself after all. He used the Rashomon gates (which are summoned objects that have zero bearing on Orochimaru's own durability) to eat up most of that blast, or at least a significant portion of it.
Like, yeah, Orochimaru was able to "fight" KN4 and "hang with him", but the fact of the matter is that he's much weaker physically, which is why he doesn't scale to him.
I can try working on that when I have more time.
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<ref group="Note">Scales to approximately X</ref>
Just using this as a reference for it and replacing the x with the value there.
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Wow my first successful crt. Boruto God tiers have been upgraded back to "likely 5A"
