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Doesn't it show when the Byakugan is active though?
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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread
MinatoSparkle
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MinatoSparkle
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No reason to hold back, it's more beneficial to knock him away then save Boruto then to make him dodge and save Boruto
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Yeah that Ant thing he said is a thing as of recent, so yeah gotta work on updating, im dealing with it for all of Bleach. But back to Boruto, I really cannot tell if thats blood or debris, I will give you that its one or the other, so its definitely (by vsbw) possibly valid that Momo just shat on Naruto, but is there a colored version of Boruto?So this is a thing apparently.
He didn't have it activated?
MinatoSparkle
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Tragic, it was so convenient
Uhhh not afaik. Although I really don't see why it'd be debris, it's not like Momo's dragging his foot along the ground or smthn, and it's pure black, there's no white inside like there would be for debris. Also don't see why Naruto would've been debilitated for so long if he wasn't injured and just healed cause of Kurama.
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Personally I'm fine with using this to scale Momo as likely on Nard's level which is good enough for me, so like I'll concede on that, but just to further the discussion. It's not unlikely that the attack out of nowhere especially to the head could have rattled his brain and left him on his ass for a bit as he recovered, without actually breaking skin or dealing major damage, think like a right hook to the chin. Also, I have no idea how Ikemoto distinguishes between blood and debris, so who knows.Tragic, it was so convenient
Uhhh not afaik. Although I really don't see why it'd be debris, it's not like Momo's dragging his foot along the ground or smthn, and it's pure black, there's no white inside like there would be for debris. Also don't see why Naruto would've been debilitated for so long if he wasn't injured and just healed cause of Kurama.
MinatoSparkle
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Tbf he did look behind him before Momo kicked him, and I'd think Kurama would also speed up head rattling healing. And idt I've ever seen debris drawn like that.
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I will put this here since a user on discord said this and I wanna know what y’all think:
“I think War Arc Juubi can be small planet level. This is after the last chapter because Boruto connected the rotation of the planet to the chakra and stuff. So, this representation of its chakra is solid.”
“Planets chakra contributes to its rotation and life and if Juubi has small planet level chakra it should also translate to that kind of power.”
“I think War Arc Juubi can be small planet level. This is after the last chapter because Boruto connected the rotation of the planet to the chakra and stuff. So, this representation of its chakra is solid.”
“Planets chakra contributes to its rotation and life and if Juubi has small planet level chakra it should also translate to that kind of power.”
Testarossa002
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That has to be the most misinterpreted panel in Naruto
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The water sensing sphere was monitoring the chakra of all the combatants on the battlefield, hence the big sphere.
Juubi had enough chakra to independently form it's own chakra sphere albeit smaller than the combined chakra volume of everyone else on the battlefield including heavyweights like kurama, gyuki and Naruto.
It has nothing to do with the actual planet.
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The water sensing sphere was monitoring the chakra of all the combatants on the battlefield, hence the big sphere.
Juubi had enough chakra to independently form it's own chakra sphere albeit smaller than the combined chakra volume of everyone else on the battlefield including heavyweights like kurama, gyuki and Naruto.
It has nothing to do with the actual planet.
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Momoshiki arc
Hagoromo Moon Calc (78.2 ZT) = Momoshiki (should be relative to Kaguya) = Boruto Kages (pressured Momoshiki and Kinshiki, 78.2 ZT) < 50% Base Naruto (didn't get one shotted by Fused Momoshiki like the Kages even at half power, >78.2 ZT) < 100% Base Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power self, >156.4 ZT) < Fused Momoshiki (absorbed Kinshiki's power and combined it with his own, at least twice as strong as base Momoshiki. But likely much stronger given that he one shotted the Kages who was previously relative to him (usually such huge power gaps is more than 2x), and fusion in fiction is usually treated as more powerful than the sum of its parts. >>156.4 ZT) = Gaara's sand (Blocked Momoshiki's punch, >>156.4 ZT) = 50% SPSM Naruto (Relative to Fused Momoshiki >>156.4 ZT) < 50% Base Naruto's strongest techniques (one shotted Fused Momoshiki with a Choodama Rasengan, >>>156.4 ZT) < 50% SPSM Naruto's strongest techniques (should logically be stronger than the same techniques in his base form, >>>>156.4 ZT).
Kara arc
Base Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power self in Momoshiki Arc, possibly four times stronger since his chakra has doubled when absorbing the polar particles in Retsuden, >156.4 ZT, possibly >312.8 ZT) < SPSM Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power SPSM self in Momoshiki Arc, possibly four times stronger since his chakra has doubled when absorbing the polar particles in Retsuden, >>312.8 ZT, possibly >>625,6 ZT), = Delta (matched SPSM Naruto physically, >>312.8 ZT, possibly >>625,6 ZT ) < Base Naruto's strongest techniques (should be stronger than his SPSM physicals, as his base Choodama Rasengan one shotted Fused Momoshiki who was relative to him in SPSM >>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>625,6 ZT) < SPSM Naruto's strongest techniques (should be stronger than the same techniques in his base form, one shotted Delta with a Choodama Rasengan who was relative to him in SPSM, even with a huge amount of the Rasengan's Chakra absorbed, >>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>625,6 ZT) < Karma V2 Jigen (dominated Naruto and Sasuke completely, one shotted both of their avatars, >>>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>>625,6 ZT), < Isshiki (even stronger than Jigen, >>>>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>>>625,6 ZT)
Hagoromo Moon Calc (78.2 ZT) = Momoshiki (should be relative to Kaguya) = Boruto Kages (pressured Momoshiki and Kinshiki, 78.2 ZT) < 50% Base Naruto (didn't get one shotted by Fused Momoshiki like the Kages even at half power, >78.2 ZT) < 100% Base Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power self, >156.4 ZT) < Fused Momoshiki (absorbed Kinshiki's power and combined it with his own, at least twice as strong as base Momoshiki. But likely much stronger given that he one shotted the Kages who was previously relative to him (usually such huge power gaps is more than 2x), and fusion in fiction is usually treated as more powerful than the sum of its parts. >>156.4 ZT) = Gaara's sand (Blocked Momoshiki's punch, >>156.4 ZT) = 50% SPSM Naruto (Relative to Fused Momoshiki >>156.4 ZT) < 50% Base Naruto's strongest techniques (one shotted Fused Momoshiki with a Choodama Rasengan, >>>156.4 ZT) < 50% SPSM Naruto's strongest techniques (should logically be stronger than the same techniques in his base form, >>>>156.4 ZT).
Kara arc
Base Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power self in Momoshiki Arc, possibly four times stronger since his chakra has doubled when absorbing the polar particles in Retsuden, >156.4 ZT, possibly >312.8 ZT) < SPSM Naruto (should be twice as strong as his half power SPSM self in Momoshiki Arc, possibly four times stronger since his chakra has doubled when absorbing the polar particles in Retsuden, >>312.8 ZT, possibly >>625,6 ZT), = Delta (matched SPSM Naruto physically, >>312.8 ZT, possibly >>625,6 ZT ) < Base Naruto's strongest techniques (should be stronger than his SPSM physicals, as his base Choodama Rasengan one shotted Fused Momoshiki who was relative to him in SPSM >>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>625,6 ZT) < SPSM Naruto's strongest techniques (should be stronger than the same techniques in his base form, one shotted Delta with a Choodama Rasengan who was relative to him in SPSM, even with a huge amount of the Rasengan's Chakra absorbed, >>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>625,6 ZT) < Karma V2 Jigen (dominated Naruto and Sasuke completely, one shotted both of their avatars, >>>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>>625,6 ZT), < Isshiki (even stronger than Jigen, >>>>>>312.8 ZT, possibly >>>>>>625,6 ZT)
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I mean he was able to make a cloaked naruto pass out. Yes naruto took the full force of the explosion so as to save the village but still. It means base momo can damage cloaked naruto. That puts him above base naruto or at least relative. Also 50% base naruto doesn't hold up quite well. He was literally getting overwhelmed, heck sasuke was thrown in and still got mopped.
And kinshiki is not equal to the kages. He is well above them. The dude literally only went down to sasuke and sasuke alone lol. And Momoshiki is quite literally superior to kinshiki. Why are you using him to scale?
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Momo's absorbed jutsus are far superior to his physicals. He was damaging Majestic Attire Susano'o made of a stronger Naruto and Sasuke while his Lava Golem in his fused form got one shotted by a weaker MAS.
The Boruto era Kages are relative to Kinshiki and Momoshiki. Darui and Gaara can keep up with Momo in speed and Darui in particular is fighting melee with Momo (in the anime), Gaara can even block Fused Momo's attacks (both anime and manga), Chojuro tanked an attack from Kinshiki (injured though), and then hurting him with his chakra blades, Kurotsuchi also burned Kinshiki with her lava jutsus.
Testarossa002
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Which is something I'm not comfortable with
Considering the remaining stats are ignored.
Either we apply it to all or don't use it at all.
MinatoSparkle
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Tbf that wasn't a full body MAS
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i agree
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Nope. You're not gonna scale the head of kurama and susanoo to majestic attire lol. How did you even equate the 2? Also momo damaged it by repeatedly attacking several times not in a single shot. His lava golem would have done same lol. And I have no idea the reason for this second paragraph. You can be relative and still weaker which is the point. They were vastly weaker. Only gaara with his sand isn't inferior. The rest were clearly shown to be. And darui and all other kages have zero relationship with momo. They downscale to kinshiki. Momoshiki is blatantly superior to kinshiki. No way in any shape or form does kinshiki and the kages scalling affect momo.
I think someone also brought a picture of momo kicking naruto to oblivion and drawing blood from him. Yup that's definitely enough showing
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Yeah I mean shouldn't it apply to 10% jigen and the whole full power jigen being a 10x increase?
Testarossa002
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It used to be.
Which netted the god tiers at 5-A
But it was downgrades for some reason.
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The downgrade was so confusing. The downgrade was for speed scalling to it but somehow ap got removed. Which I have no Idea why
HelloThere1089
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Who would 10% Jigen scale to?
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he would scale to koji
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5A upgrade for some boruto characters
characters such as Ishikki, full power Jigen, no limiter Code, Daemon and Eida should all be upgraded to 5a via a 10x multiplier from Kashin koji vs Jigen fight. Kashin koji is rated currently on the wiki as 5b for being comparable to delta. he was also confident on taking her on here Amado then...
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What do y'all think about Lazywaka's Naruto planet calc that netted the God tiers 900 Zettatons as a low end? They accepted it as well.
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Naruto Calcs: Waka Edition
Ok next leg. The crater was calced to be 316.369km - 341.166km. We cant see the full crater but we do know that the Juubi was restrained in the center of it so we can get the radius of it. Red line = 1235px = 158.184km - 170.583km. The barrier (blue line) has a width of 1280px = 163.9km -...
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HelloThere1089
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Then they would only get a "likely" rating.
HelloThere1089
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Where is the guy getting his initial sizes for the countries? Also is the Naruto depiction of the world map consistent?What do y'all think about Lazywaka's Naruto planet calc that netted the God tiers 900 Zettatons as a low end? They accepted it as well.
Naruto Calcs: Waka Edition
Ok next leg. The crater was calced to be 316.369km - 341.166km. We cant see the full crater but we do know that the Juubi was restrained in the center of it so we can get the radius of it. Red line = 1235px = 158.184km - 170.583km. The barrier (blue line) has a width of 1280px = 163.9km -...
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Read the whole page, I guess.
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ZT or YT?
Testarossa002
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We really need to hash out the planet size stuff of Naruto.
A significant portion of the mid tier calcs use the Konoha-Suna distance as reference.
But when I attempted to get the countries size from that, DT said it won't be usable and redirected me to a long ass thread (which I read)
A significant portion of the mid tier calcs use the Konoha-Suna distance as reference.
But when I attempted to get the countries size from that, DT said it won't be usable and redirected me to a long ass thread (which I read)
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that's true
HelloThere1089
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I see you changed the OP. Hopefully now people can shut up about the last thread and actually engage.
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I know right. It was annoying at first
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What do I have written there
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Shouldn't it be YT?
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anyone else wants to give their input?
HelloThere1089
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I think you are misreading the decimals. Thousand YT is a lot.
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Bro. That's getting close to dwarf star level I think. It should be ZT
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Blacke, for the quintillionth time.......the Juubi thing isn't in reference to the actual planet. The Juubi's chakra is being compared to the Water Sensing Sphere, which only includes the chakra of the people being monitored, aka the Shinobi Alliance, Madara, Obito, etc. It's not a representation of the actual planet or anything. So, basically, it's completely irrelevant for anything outside of proving that the Juubi has an absurd amount of chakra, which is a given.
Testarossa002
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I think konoha even has a version of the sphere where they monitor the chakra of everyone in the village (can't remember if the scene in pain arc was anime only)
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Why did you close it?5A upgrade for some boruto characters
characters such as Ishikki, full power Jigen, no limiter Code, Daemon and Eida should all be upgraded to 5a via a 10x multiplier from Kashin koji vs Jigen fight. Kashin koji is rated currently on the wiki as 5b for being comparable to delta. he was also confident on taking her on here Amado then...vsbattles.com
Shadow isn't making a CRT in a long time. They're too busy with IRL stuff. You can continue the CRT (and get it accepted), then whenever they makes their own CRT, they can downgrade it if they want to.
