Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

[Ghostimuscrime]

I mean yeah, not all planetary feats are planet level, just like not all mountain feats are mountain level. Our tiering system names are semi-arbitrary in title, and sometimes destroying a mountain, island, country, etc doesn't correlate to that specific tier. Destroying a mountain can range from like city level if you frag it, to like island level if you vaporize it like the Bijuu.

And this is a thing across wiki in general. HST verses get far more scrutiny since they're far more popular to scale. Which sucks. There are some staff that think Soul Society can only be a big town right, it's not just Naruto. Ik it's weird, but I think you run into a mindset issue when you look at it from the perspective of destroying something with a name on the AP naming list must grant you that tier, when those names are simply there out of necessity to label the tiers.

hell no, the destruction of a celestial body has always been treated as overcoming its GBE
and quit the nonsense excuses with the tbb example, we know earth has an established 5B and that its not a surface level wiping

Edit: also with Roshi's feat we see it hits the moon and makes it explode omnidirectionally, so there's evidence that the blast not only turned the moon to dust but also scattered it all, thus overcoming its GBE. But even if it shouldn't be 5-C, two wrongs don't make a right. One verse being poorly scaled isn't an excuse to poorly scale another. Whataboutisms don't accomplish anything

whataboutisms serve to expose bias and double standards and you never see omnidirectional explosion in the manga that's a toei thing

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

also the destroyed bits (its not vapourization you dont get that from shooting the moon like a cannon ball)
so those parts wouldnt re-coalesce due to gravity so it has to objectively overcome the GBE no matter how you see it

 

[Samlex1234]

@Arc7Kuroi How about the light of Justice? Why is the energy required for that feat Toneri + Naruto Chakra when he stated way before they even fought in tenseigan mode that he was going to use the Byakugan eyes as an energy source to destroy the Planet.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

hell no, the destruction of a celestial body has always been treated as overcoming its GBE

This is false. But if you're going to adopt this viewpoint as fact, then we just won't see eye to eye. And I'm fine agreeing to disagree at that point.

@Arc7Kuroi How about the light of Justice? Why is the energy required for that feat Toneri + Naruto Chakra when he stated way before they even fought in tenseigan mode that he was going to use the Byakugan eyes as an energy source to destroy the Planet.

Are you asking why LoJ isn't rated at 5-B on wiki? Or are you asking if and why I don't think it's 5-B?

 

[Samlex1234]

Are you asking why LoJ isn't rated at 5-B on wiki? Or are you asking if and why I don't think it's 5-B?

Both.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Both.

Well me personally I’m just fine with 5-B LoJ.

As for vsbw, tmk, they just don’t accept the planet destroying statements in The Last to only be able to be interpreted as shattering beyond GBE aka 5-B. They are fine with and accept the interpretation that the planet can be destroyed and whatnot without having it be shattered beyond GBE. Hence, the fragmenting a mountain might not be mountain level analogy.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

This is false. But if you're going to adopt this viewpoint as fact, then we just won't see eye to eye. And I'm fine agreeing to disagree at that point.

you havent answered my later argument of below vap destruction feats would require overcoming the GBE to keep those fragments apart from each other

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

you havent answered my later argument of below vap destruction feats would require overcoming the GBE to keep those fragments apart from each other

It’s my old man bedtime, I got work in 8 hours. But yes if the fragments stay apart then you’ve overcome the GBE I agree. Not all vaporization feats need to do that tho.

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

It’s my old man bedtime, I got work in 8 hours. But yes if the fragments stay apart then you’ve overcome the GBE I agree. Not all vaporization feats need to do that tho.

concession accepted, sleep tight

 

[NeoKingOfLight]

I still find it incredible that Kishi still attempted to give us a good “scale” when he showcased Madara’s CT FRAGMENTS dwarfing Mountain Ranges when they were destroyed.

Shit must’ve looked apocalyptic from afar!