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Naruto to Boruto Discussion Thread

Samlex1234 said:
God-tier scaling is a mess on the wiki right now, Kishimoto has blessed this verse with so many feats for god-tiers that are more than enough to last to Saruto. But somehow everyone from Madara - Kaguya - Momoshiki - Fused Momoshiki - Jigen - Tbv Boruto - Isshiki - Baryon mode somehow scaled to the same Casual feet that Hagoromo performed.

We have people like Kaguya who before the second IT chakra absorption had so much chakra a Hagoromo-level Madara could not handle. Meanwhile, she has various feats herself but it is just ignored.

A simple Fused Momo is at least = Momo + kin Ap is not accepted. Meanwhile, we have dragon ball characters like Goku going from solar system to low multiversal in his Super Saiyan god form which he achieved by Six righteous Saiyans holding hands in a circle and transferring their ki into Goku. This would later affect the entire cast as many characters would later reach that level Via training, Eg, Krillin who was only star level before that.

Now let's contrast with the Naruto verse when the Uzuhiko came out. A CRT was immediately proposed to cap the Verse, However when we make the same argument for Boruto Uzuhiko that energy interaction doesn't always mean 1+1. It is ignored. The same feat that we can't even determine the amount of Planetary Charkra he used both times it was used, is supposed to cap the verse at planetary? Inconsistency and pure bias everywhere
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Then why you don't use sasuke's statement in shin arc here at 11:50

When he was talking about the stronger threats than kaguya Sasuke was talking about what kaguya was capable and said Kaguya the whole NEARLY DESTROY THE WORLD which is clear statement proves that every time sasuke was talking about what kaguya can do he was talking her ETSO and white zetsu can be used like she did to shinobi who got trapped in infinite tsukiyomi and the ETSO and I didn't see someone who can absorb TSO
 
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garp2 said:
Then why you don't use sasuke's statement in shin arc here at 11:50

When he was talking about the stronger threats than kaguya Sasuke was talking about what kaguya was capable and said Kaguya the whole NEARLY DESTROY THE WORLD which is clear statement proves that every time sasuke was talking about what kaguya can do he was talking her ETSO and white zetsu can be used like she did to shinobi who got trapped in infinite tsukiyomi and the ETSO and I didn't see someone who can absorb TSO
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nearly destroying the world is about IT and the earth. ETSO got nothing to do with destroying the world coz guess what? it was going to destroy kaguya dimension which got nothing to do with sasuke's "world"
 
garp2 said:
Then why you don't use sasuke's statement in shin arc here at 11:50

When he was talking about the stronger threats than kaguya Sasuke was talking about what kaguya was capable and said Kaguya the whole NEARLY DESTROY THE WORLD which is clear statement proves that every time sasuke was talking about what kaguya can do he was talking her ETSO and white zetsu can be used like she did to shinobi who got trapped in infinite tsukiyomi and the ETSO and I didn't see someone who can absorb TSO
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The problem we have with ETSO right now is that it is a one-time feat that scales to no one physicals.
 
Honestly, Amadou should take this opportunity to abuse his position over Kawaki and create some Brain Altering tech that allows him to mind control Kawaki to place Karma on Akebi. Kawaki would be none-the-wiser if Amadou presents it as upgrades to fight the Shinju.

Also, it just dawned on me but, Amadou could’ve created a Boruto clone for him to place Karma onto and negated the need for this entire situation.
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
How do you scale Akatsuki zetsu?! His feats from fighting mei and her bodyguards are allowed
Is he mid-Kage?
Please explain your reasons if he is
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BZ should be Mid to High Kage Level IG:
  1. Fast enough to react and catch KCM Naruto with Mokuton.
  2. Physically comparable to Mei.
  3. Stalemated Mei & Co when attacking the Daimyo.
  4. Strong Enough to Overpower Six Paths Madara w/ his Parasite Ability (But I think this is more of a “Lack of Resistance” feat than a Strength Feat).
Stalemating Minato & Kakashi was done with Obito’s Body whom had Six Paths Chakra.
 
Nierre said:
I think he'd need the actual person to make a clone of them
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Yeah, this could have been done during NNG. Naruto allows him to make a Boruto Clone for the Possibility of Karmic Resurrection after Boruto is initially revived. This way, Kawaki doesn’t have to worry about attacking Boruto again or taking extreme measures and Boruto doesn’t have to worry about taking someone’s life, like he did about Code.
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Fast enough to react and catch KCM Naruto with Mokuton.
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Wasn't Naruto careless and got caught in tree so that's why zetsu was able to catch him? im saying naruto's carelessness was irrelevant to zetsu catching him because after all Naruto tried to blitz him but he caught Naruto, so he was still fast enough to react to naruto
NeoKingOfLight said:
Strong Enough to Overpower Six Paths Madara w/ his Parasite Ability (But I think this is more of a “Lack of Resistance” feat than a Strength Feat).
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It's actually with obito, im talking about akatsuki zetsu
 
I doubt Naruto would sign that off tbh, let alone Shikamaru. That doesn't really seem ethical and not something I'd imagine Naruto would be on board with.
 
Samlex1234 said:
The problem we have with ETSO right now is that it is a one-time feat that scales to no one physicals.
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Even if it's a one time sasuke still saw it's capability and that is why he said kaguya who nearly destroyed the world and it was one time use because the person who used di*d not because it's actually one time use ability and that is the only thing we never seen it can be absorbed, kaguya was preparing herself to the stronger threat and she made white zetsu, we know In front of momoshiki and kinshiki the ninjutsu is useless and because of kinshiki the physical strength is useless unless the character is as strong or fast as kinshiki while white zetsu got stomped by kcm1 Naruto, neji, sakura, akamaru and others who are not even hashirama level while kinshiki and momoshiki are likes of kaguya, juubi-madara and team 7 in war arc so momoshiki and kinshiki don't have advantage of hax and physical status but they are tiers above white zetsu and don't forget kaguya can absorb the 100000 white zetsu to create another ETSO any time
 
karo_senpaii said:
nearly destroying the world is about IT and the earth. ETSO got nothing to do with destroying the world coz guess what? it was going to destroy kaguya dimension which got nothing to do with sasuke's "world"
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Yes I know the dimension kaguya was going to destroy is her main dimension and that doesn't mean she can't do the same to the shinobi world, bro that's why she suggested to fight team 7 in her dimension because she loves the earth but that's not matter but the stronger threats don't like the earth so there's nothing prove that they will try to not destroy the world
 
NeoKingOfLight said:
Yeah, this could have been done during NNG. Naruto allows him to make a Boruto Clone for the Possibility of Karmic Resurrection after Boruto is initially revived. This way, Kawaki doesn’t have to worry about attacking Boruto again or taking extreme measures and Boruto doesn’t have to worry about taking someone’s life, like he did about Code.
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Except for the fact that Naruto would never allow this
He spared the life of the shin clones
Not to talk of a clone that looks like his son
garp2 said:
the stronger threats don't like the earth so there's nothing prove that they will try to not destroy the world
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This goes against the narrative behind the otsutsuki
They would absolutely hold off on destroying earth until they can get the chakra fruit
Especially when the potential yield from earth's chakra fruit is greater than the norm
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Wasn't Naruto careless and got caught in tree so that's why zetsu was able to catch him? im saying naruto's carelessness was irrelevant to zetsu catching him because after all Naruto tried to blitz him but he caught Naruto, so he was still fast enough to react to naruto
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That was the first instance when Naruto first got to the field, and in that case, BZ didn’t do anything. The 2nd instance was when Naruto tried to Dash attack him with FRS like he did Third Raikage. That’s when BZ caught him with Mokuton.
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
It's actually with obito, im talking about akatsuki zetsu
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Not the Parasite ability. Obito has no hearing on that ability.
 
Testarossa002 said:
Except for the fact that Naruto would never allow this
He spared the life of the shin clones
Not to talk of a clone that looks like his son

This goes against the narrative behind the otsutsuki
They would absolutely hold off on destroying earth until they can get the chakra fruit
Especially when the potential yield from earth's chakra fruit is greater than the norm
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Agreed but the difference here is sasuke isn't an otsutsuke and he doesn't know anything about chakra fruit except that kaguya already ate and by consuming the chakra tree the character can perform the infinite tsukiyomi besides that he doesn't know anything else until he saw that there's another juubi and Amado's explanation
 
Deceived3596 said:
Arc, as long as he still participates with this wiki, will have someone questioning him about Physics without knowing his background in Physics. It will also always be hilarious to watch the eventual chaos unfold.
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My brother I am not trying to debate him about the physics but the feat itself, the beam of light sliced the moon and we see the beam went through the moon faster than the two halves of the moon could react, for example base teen spsm Naruto's lava rasinshuirken sliced the chakra tree, Edo madara slicing the mountains

The conservation of energy was described like this

The law of conservation of energy states that the total energy of an isolated system remains constant; it is said to be conserved over time In the case of a closed system, the principle says that the total amount of energy within the system can only be changed through energy entering or leaving the system. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed; rather, it can only be transformed or transferred from one form to another. For instance, chemical energy is converted to kinetic energy when a stick of dynamite explodes. If one adds up all forms of energy that were released in the explosion, such as the kinetic energy and potential energy of the pieces, as well as heat and sound, one will get the exact decrease of chemical energy in the combustion of the dynamite.

Classically, the conservation of energy was distinct from the conservation of mass. However, special relativity shows that mass is related to energy and vice versa by E=mc2{\displaystyle E=mc^{2}}, the equation representing mass–energy equivalence, and science now takes the view that mass-energy as a whole is conserved. Theoretically, this implies that mass can itself be converted to energy, and vice versa. However, this is believed to be possible only under the most extreme of physical conditions, such as likely existed in the universe very shortly after the Big Bang or when black holes emit Hawking radiation.

Given the stationary-action principle, the conservation of energy can be rigorously proven by Noether's theorem as a consequence of continuous time translation symmetry; that is, from the fact that the laws of physics do not change over time.

A consequence of the law of conservation of energy is that a perpetual motion machine of the first kind cannot exist; that is to say, no system without an external energy supply can deliver an unlimited amount of energy to its surroundings.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-2"><span>[</span>2<span>]</span></a> Depending on the definition of energy, the conservation of energy can arguably be violated by general relativity on the cosmological scale.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-Energy_Is_Not_Conserved-3"><span>[</span>3<span>]</span></a> In quantum mechanics, Noether's theorem is known to apply to the expected value, making any consistent conservation violation provably impossible, but whether individual conservation-violating events could ever exist or be observed is subject to some debate.<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_of_energy#cite_note-quanta-mag-4"><span>[</span>4<span>]</span></a>
 
"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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This Month's BORUTO
"If it were Naruto, he would make a move to fight against the Shinju (God Trees).
Shikamaru, the strategist, says, "I wouldn't resort to such a method... but it's different. This situation has surpassed human intelligence, and we need a solution."
They are dealing with a mission in the Land of Wind, and despite the complications, things are progressing.
Kawaki, in his quest for power, is planning to take action, but it’s unclear what exactly he'll do."

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Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
How do you scale Akatsuki zetsu?! His feats from fighting mei and her bodyguards are allowed
Is he mid-Kage?
Please explain your reasons if he is
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I think he's High Kage level for scaling to Mei and somewhat to a KCM clone
Shadowbokunohero said:
"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
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Wonder what the Juubito>Shinju Ego people are gonna say about this
 
Garp2 my answers to your questions are in the thread 😎 like I explicitly spell it out in that thread. Thank you and good day
 
Destroy the world -----> Destroy Shinobi System/society , Kaguya didnt use ETSO in the main timeline did we read the same Manga


Anyway Look at this continent buster next to naruto and sasuke
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Shadowbokunohero said:
"Having inherited the will of Otsutsuki Isshiki, Code bares his fangs at Konoha for the sake of his mission and revenge.He utilizes his own abilities to increase the power of the Ten Tails."
uPrMrQj.png
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Ive been waiting for a statement like this for so long because its hilariously obvious that Ten Tails was Fodder and "Jigen Amped Ten Tails" is a weird thing never mentioned in the Manga nor would it matter because code is > Ten Tails anyway
 
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