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Naruto Part II Revisions (Multipliers/Calculations)

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So, hypothetically, if we didn't scale a Bijuu's physicals to their TBBs, what would we scale them to?
 
Remember when I said the War Arc would add seven more pages to this thread? It’s already added five lol
 
So are there any other counters to the 25x multiplier for KN0? Cause if not, I could go ahead and use it (and it’ll make some scaling much less of a pain in the ass).
 
So are there any other counters to the 25x multiplier for KN0? Cause if not, I could go ahead and use it (and it’ll make some scaling much less of a pain in the ass).
Only one is that CS2 Sasuke is 10x multiplier from base and he matched w/ Naruto in base and in KN1, so idk
 
So, hypothetically, if we didn't scale a Bijuu's physicals to their TBBs, what would we scale them to?
That's actually a good ass question.
Tbh idk why we scaled it to their strongest attack in the first place.
I guess just find a dura feat for Killer B or another Bijuu, throw a multiplier on it, and scale them all off that.
Minimum it would be is 7-A+, max is 6-C based on any other info.
 
Only one is that CS2 Sasuke is 10x multiplier from base and he matched w/ Naruto in base and in KN1, so idk
Wasn't base Naruto weaker than Sasuke at the VOTE? iirc Sasuke was dominating him until he used Kyuubi's chakra right? Plus, I think CS1 is also a separate amp than CS2 (10x), so Sasuke's superior base and several amps could POSSIBLY even things out.
If I'm wrong about anything though, then forget it. I haven't read that fight in a long time in all honesty.
 
That's actually a good ass question.
Tbh idk why we scaled it to their strongest attack in the first place.
I guess just find a dura feat for Killer B or another Bijuu, throw a multiplier on it, and scale them all off that.
Minimum it would be is 7-A+, max is 6-C based on any other info.
I think minimum should be High 7-A. The Bijuus should be superior to Sage Mode Naruto.
 
That's actually a good ass question.
Tbh idk why we scaled it to their strongest attack in the first place.
I guess just find a dura feat for Killer B or another Bijuu, throw a multiplier on it, and scale them all off that.
Minimum it would be is 7-A+, max is 6-C based on any other info.
Sorry if you already explained this, but where's the 7-A+ coming from? AFAIK we have no 7-A+ calcs anymore.
 
Wasn't base Naruto weaker than Sasuke at the VOTE? iirc Sasuke was dominating him until he used Kyuubi's chakra right? Plus, I think CS1 is also a separate amp than CS2 (10x), so Sasuke's superior base and several amps could POSSIBLY even things out.
If I'm wrong about anything though, then forget it. I haven't read that fight in a long time in all honesty.
You’re right, CS2 is a 10x amp ON TOP of CS1, not base.
 
So let’s use the 25x multiplier for a sec.
Base Naruto scales to baseline 7-A. 100 megatons.
KN4 would be over 25x stronger, over 2.5 gigatons. So High 7-A.
A 1.5x difference is enough to upscale to a + rating or the next tier. High 7-A+ is 2.65 gigatons, which is 1.06x (1.1x rounding up) away from where KN4 would be at.
So Sage Mode, which is stronger, would be High 7-A+/2.65 gigatons.
KN6 is stronger, and then KCM is stronger than that, which would make it ‘At least High 7-A+’ since we now have a 1.6 difference between Sage Mode and baseline 6-C. The Edo Jinchūriki then become ‘At least High 7-A+’ physically, although whether that’s in V2 or BM is up for debate.
 
He means the old (and now invalid) ratings had Sage Mode at 7-A+ if I’m understanding correctly.

Edit: Nvm, UchihaSlayer explained it first.
 
I should add the x10 multiplier comes from Jirobo's CSM2 and if IIRC Sasuke's curse mark is way stronger than Jirobo's (same for Kimmimaro's) so it can be higher than that.
 
I think we're getting ahead of ourselves with these unofficial multipliers.
 
Wasn't base Naruto weaker than Sasuke at the VOTE? iirc Sasuke was dominating him until he used Kyuubi's chakra right? Plus, I think CS1 is also a separate amp than CS2 (10x), so Sasuke's superior base and several amps could POSSIBLY even things out.
If I'm wrong about anything though, then forget it. I haven't read that fight in a long time in all honesty.
Yes, after the ritual Base Sasuke was much stronger than Naruto and was still able to beat him down even when he used Vermilion Mode/KN0
 
I think we're getting ahead of ourselves with these unofficial multipliers.
It’s not unofficial though, it’s just taking what Kakashi said. If Kurama’s chakra makes Naruto go from 4x to 100x, that’s a 25x increase.
 
It’s not unofficial though, it’s just taking what Kakashi said. If Kurama’s chakra makes Naruto go from 4x to 100x, that’s a 25x increase.
That doesn't mean it's just KN0 though.

And it doesn't mean the AP increase follows equally to the chakra increase.
 
Anyways, if we went with the scale I just gave, the tier of the Obito-amped BM jinchūriki depends on what form we scale to KCM.

If we scale V2 to KCM, then BM would upscale to baseline 6-C. So their tiers would be something like ‘6-C, higher with Bijuudama.’

If we scale BM to KCM, then it would be ‘High 7-A+, 6-C with Bijuudama.’
 
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