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So it was true. This likely means that he is stronger after befriending Kurama.
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Naruto Part II Revisions (Multipliers/Calculations)
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Yeah everyone does that, but when I checked it on the fandom I was like "where the hell is KCM2?" and it was like "Kurama mode".
KCM1 = Nine-Tails Chakra Mode
KCM2 = Kurama Mode
Kurama Avatar = Tailed Beast Mode
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Yeah. EOS Naruto has better chakra control too, so he can use the chakra he had before better.
Early Naruto's control was some of the worst shit I've ever seen. He had the most chakra in the show but he got tired before everybody. Not including the fact that he uses clones which divide his chakra thousands of times.
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Lol, I did the same thing. I tried to search Kyuubi Chakra Mode and nothing came up, so I had to do some digging before I found out that it was actually called Nine-Tails Chakra Mode.
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I’ve never seen that before lol. Although I imagine the new form he showed off in Boruto will be called KCM3 by the fandom.
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I used to see it, then people called it SMKCM which was stupid as hell, then SKCM and all the variants.
The new form is most definitely gonna be KCM3, I've already seen people say it
The new form is most definitely gonna be KCM3, I've already seen people say it
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KN0 is just under the influence. The eyes and the chakra.
KN1 is 1 tail and the shroud.
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I have no idea what the N stands for, but it’s Kyuubi/Kurama [insert what N means] and then the number is the amount of tails Naruto has.
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I think I saw SKCM and KCSM as acronyms for Bijuu Sage Mode. Not for SPSM though.
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Yeah they got too many names
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I just say Kyuubi Chakra Mode/KCM, Kyuubi Chakra Mode #2/KCM2, Bijuu Mode/Kurama Avatar, and then Bijuu Sage Mode.
Anyways, we’re getting off-topic. Does the 25x multiplier for KN0 work? And we should also take a look at the Sakura Hiden multiplier, I remember there was a calc that used it an most people seemed fine with the multiplier itself, they just thought the feat was an outlier.
Anyways, we’re getting off-topic. Does the 25x multiplier for KN0 work? And we should also take a look at the Sakura Hiden multiplier, I remember there was a calc that used it an most people seemed fine with the multiplier itself, they just thought the feat was an outlier.
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I found out that Naruto was actually using SPSM against Toneri, hence his repeated flight and not being disintegrated by TSOs
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I don't think it works. Just having access to more chakra doesn't automatically mean you know how to use it.
If that's the case, every time Naruto makes a clone, he should be half a strong since the chakra is split in half
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But he still looks like he's using BSM. Probably because Shippuden anime hasn't revealed SPSM yet when the Last was released. Stupid timing lmao.
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Yeah, probably a miscoloring. Kishimoto didn't contribute to the movie, I'm not even sure that he wrote it.
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Although Naruto’s clones are all comparable to him. So how does that work?
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I've seen people refer to it as Kyuubi Naruto for some reason
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This.
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That... actually makes some sense.
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Oh right. So maybe it's like Super Saiyan God where Goku has the power of SSG in base after using it for the first time.
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When Naruto has less chakra, it's not him getting weaker, it's just less time he can fight for.
When Naruto gets more chakra, it's not a boost, it's just being allowed to fight for longer periods of time.
When Naruto gets stronger chakra, it's a significant boost.
Let's say Naruto's max reserve is 100. Naruto punches, kicks, Rasengans, all of that with maybe about 5 - 10 units. Naruto doesn't use the max amount of his chakra, if he did, he would die.
When Naruto gets more chakra, his reserves go up. His control doesn't go up, so even if he does gain more chakra, he's still using the same amount of chakra from before he got the boost.
I always say this when people say chakra is a 1:1 ratio to potency.
If Naruto doesn't put any chakra in a punch, would he have no force?
Just owning more chakra ≠ getting stronger. I used to use this argument.
Naruto w/out being suppressed has 100x the chakra reserves of Kakashi.
Neji said Kisame at 30% had as much chakra as Naruto.
Is Kisame 333x stronger than Kakashi?
That's why I always disagreed with the Kisame and Itachi 30% clones being weaker than their actual selves, they can just fight for less time.
For a period of time, I thought Naruto didn't even get a striking strength boost or speed boost when he went from KCM1 to KCM2, and the only difference was access to more chakra and bijuu mode. Part of me still believes it, but the other half is still ehh.
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Lol, Kurama wouldn't even need to worry about himself dying when Naruto uses that form because he'd just reform in a few years.
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Tbh even if you say Naruto can’t use all of his chakra at once, it would be a 25x multiplier with the Kyuubi chakra regardless. Whether he can use all or little of it doesn’t really change how much it gets multiplied.
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Quick question for the pixel calc people in here, do we still post calcs on the .fandom or do we do it here now?
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Fandom I think with a link on this site
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I'm 99% sure that is not the case.
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I don't think so.
Base Naruto has 4x the reserves of Kakashi.
Naruto w/ Kurama's leaking out is 100x more.
Naruto w/ Kurama cooperating with him is much larger.
People keep thinking "25x multiplier" which is a horrible mindset to have.
If you think 25x multiplier, you would have to think that Naruto is 4x stronger than Kakashi
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Leaking out does not equal KN0 and all of that. I'm not referring to the modes.
Kurama has been leaking chakra through the seal since Naruto was born.
Naruto's chakra deadass combined w/ Kuramas.
Yamato is suppressing above, making it as if Kurama was never linked w/ Naruto.
Naruto has the same amount of chakra in KN0 that he does in 6 tails, he's just accessing more.
Kurama has been leaking chakra through the seal since Naruto was born.
Naruto's chakra deadass combined w/ Kuramas.
Yamato is suppressing above, making it as if Kurama was never linked w/ Naruto.
Naruto has the same amount of chakra in KN0 that he does in 6 tails, he's just accessing more.
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No, that’s not what it would be. It’s not saying that the chakra amount = AP. It’s saying that Kurama’s chakra would be 25x on top of Naruto’s own chakra, however much of it he may be accessing at that point in time.
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You are are right, what I said was only said in the anime (I think English dub), I just cheked the manga and it said that if Yamato wasn't suppressing the Nine Tails that it would be 100x more. I don't know what the VIZ translation said.
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We aren’t even on Juubito yet.
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So what's been accepted so far, and what still needs to be discussed?
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Pre-War, we need to discuss tiers for Konan, Obito, Kisame, and the people that currently scale to 7-C. Plus the idea of a 25x multiplier for KN0.
During the War Arc, we need to discus basically everything.
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It's just like Naruto we're full of fillers
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