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Naruto Part II Revisions (Multipliers/Calculations)
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I dunno if this is exactly what you wanted, so you can edit it if you want.
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Didn't Sage Mode Naruto only Rasengan Braindead Juubito who couldn't think at the time? Isn't that Juubito noticeably weaker than Six Paths Obito?
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Anyway, I'd love to talk about the many inconsistencies pertaining to Juubito all day, but I think we should stay focused and go back on track before the CRT gets too chaotic.
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Again, using senjutsu, which Juubito is vulnerable to. They shouldn’t scale to him, regardless.
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Good Idea.
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So... does anyone have issues with my idea of 7-A jinchūriki? I don’t see why people wouldn’t be able to scale to Gaara’s calc.
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I'm fine with alive Jin and Bijuu being 7-A, but what would the justifications be for scaling to Gaara on their profiles?
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Also since we’ve agreed that Sage Naruto scales to his Rasenshuriken, and we’ve got a 10x multiplier for Sage Mode, that would make Base Naruto (Pain Arc) 156.4 megatons, which is 7-A.
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That depends on if we scale their bases to Gaara, or just their jinchūriki transformations. If it’s their base forms, it could just be; “Should be comparable to a fellow jinchūriki such as Gaara.” If it’s the V1/V2 states, then “Should be stronger than a non-transformed jinchūriki such as Gaara.”
Maybe it could be re-worded a bit, but that’s the general idea.
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Works fine
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No, I'm pretty sure that's not how that works lol.
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That also makes KCM 2 Naruto and Obito way stronger, since while Juubito does have a Weakness to Senjutsu, it's more so because it's the only thing he isn't immune to and he can deal with Senjutsu attacks just fine, as shown in his fight with Naruto and Sasuke and before that where BSM Naruto and Minato tried to slam a Giant Rasengan into him and he just kinda smacked them across that big ass barrier he made.
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Base Naruto scales to a lot of people, so this will be useful.
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Well, Pre-Pain Naruto is the one that scales to most people, but he’d also be 7-A (although baseline) if my jinchūriki scaling is accepted, so it doesn’t make too much of a difference.
Also this would make CS2 Sasuke and Sick Itachi High 7-A.
Also this would make CS2 Sasuke and Sick Itachi High 7-A.
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I must ask though, is this thread meant to discuss whether or not the multipliers are usable? Or were they already accepted?
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True. Also KCM 2 Naruto buffed everyone so they could resist attacks from skinny Juubi
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That’s what I did to find base Naruto in the Pain Arc. Pre-Pain Arc Naruto would be unquantifiably above baseline via scaling above Bijuu Mode Yugito.
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If CM2 Sasuke is High 7-A, then Deidaras stronger bombs should also be that level, while his normal ones would be 7-A
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Yeah, Deidara’s normal bombs could be 7-A to High 7-A.
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Yes, the living 7-A Bijuu. Not the 6-C Six Paths Bijuu.
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Absolutely. Sasori even has the supporting evidence of being stronger than Deidara, as stated by Deidara himself.
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I just said that they would scale to the Bijuu...? They don’t scale to the amped Edo Tensei Bijuu that Obito had.
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Sasori also has the 3rd Kazekage puppet and was able to defeat him in battle. The 3rd Kazekage was stated to be the most powerful Kazekage of all time at that point, putting him above Rasa and BoS Gaara.
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Base Kisame should actually be High 7-A, for scaling to 6th Gate Guy.
His 30% form pushed Guy to use the 6th Gate, meaning he's at least 5th gate level more or less.
His weakened base form was able to push Guy into using the 7th Gate and jumping straight to his strongest attack, the Hirudora. Not only did Kisame survive it, but he survived with enough chakra to bust out of Yamato's Mokuton (which was noted to be suppressing his chakra), and create a water imprisonment ball and summon sharks as well. All this I think heavily suppports Base Kisame being comparable to 6th Gate Guy, who's High 7-A.
His 30% form pushed Guy to use the 6th Gate, meaning he's at least 5th gate level more or less.
His weakened base form was able to push Guy into using the 7th Gate and jumping straight to his strongest attack, the Hirudora. Not only did Kisame survive it, but he survived with enough chakra to bust out of Yamato's Mokuton (which was noted to be suppressing his chakra), and create a water imprisonment ball and summon sharks as well. All this I think heavily suppports Base Kisame being comparable to 6th Gate Guy, who's High 7-A.
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There’s a bit of an issue with scaling the Third Kazekage to Rasa though. Rasa is about on par with War Arc Gaara, who is equal to Shukaku and can harm Madara and block hits from his Susano’o, which would now be High 6-C+/Low 6-B.
I think the Third Kazekage scaling above Rasa would just be an outlier, but Sasori would still be 7-A.
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Rasa got beaten rather easily by Gaara though. He didn't struggle all that much imo. Granted, the fight was extremely short.
Also, this only scales to Sasori with the Iron Sand, not his physicals.
Also, this only scales to Sasori with the Iron Sand, not his physicals.
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Rasa was able to stop Gaara’s sand, and stated that he’s stopped Shukaku in the past though. So he would scale.
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Madara has a High 6-C+ calc in base though?
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Shukaku in the past was 7-A though.
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