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Mugen Train Alternative Scenario: Akaza vs Kamen Rider Ixa

Here’s, in the final fight against Rook, Ixa was able to preform the Ixa Judgement without the use of his Fustle
That literally goes against ur point, My point wasn't that he needed to use his fustle my point was that his soul hax shouldn't apply to all of his moves, if he used ixa judgement for that then it doesn't mean he should get it in all of his moves cause he literally used ixa judgement.
 
So its omnidirectional from Akaza but that still goes into Ixa in one direction. As I said, Ixa can just use the soundwave from Garulu Saber + shockwave from Ixa Knuckle.


that can't be used here then if its multi-city block
you just contradicted yourself, Omni-directional literally means coming from all directions



All of akaza's things are multi city block, akaza himself is multi city block
 
you just contradicted yourself, Omni-directional literally means coming from all directions
So is it Omnidirectional coming from Akaza or attacks coming into Ixa in all directions. cause that scan looks like its coming from omnidirectional from Akaza.
All of akaza's things are multi city block, akaza himself is multi city block
What?
 
So is it Omnidirectional coming from Akaza or attacks coming into Ixa in all directions. cause that scan looks like its coming from omnidirectional from Akaza.

What?
Omni-directional coming into ixa.These shockwaves are surrounding ixa

Douma has a feat which his normal self should upscale from, In the verse page it says anyone that scales to douma is multi city block because douma did a feat thats close to Multi city block while weakened with poison thats 700x the lethal dosage and akaza scales, In fact even rengoku scales to multi city block and akaza stomped rengoku.
 
Touched on this before but didn’t put too much information on this. His finishers simply increase his AP, the soul destruct is purely from his weapons. Ixa destroying souls is not because of his finishers since it only increases attack
 
Douma has a feat which his normal self should upscale from, In the verse page it says anyone that scales to douma is multi city block because douma did a feat thats close to Multi city block while weakened with poison thats 700x the lethal dosage and akaza scales, In fact even rengoku scales to multi city block and akaza stomped rengoku.
We’re using 8-B for both of them in this fight
 
Omni-directional coming into ixa.These shockwaves are surrounding ixa
Again that scan looks like it comes from one direction.
Douma has a feat which his normal self should upscale from, In the verse page it says anyone that scales to douma is multi city block because douma did a feat thats close to Multi city block while weakened with poison thats 700x the lethal dosage and akaza scales, In fact even rengoku scales to multi city block and akaza stomped rengoku.
"City Block level+, likely Multi-City Block level" We are using 8-B.
 
Touched on this before but didn’t put too much information on this. His finishers simply increase his AP, the soul destruct is purely from his weapons. Ixa destroying souls is not because of his finishers since it only increases attack
Alright, Akaza hitting ixa with his shockwave than ixa hitting him with a sword
 
Wdym you guys are using 8-B? Akaza has one key he doesn't have two, the 8-A is for all his versions he doesn't have a different version and idek if you can restrict AP. The likely is there because its an upscale, it doesn't mean akaza's AP changes
 
Again that scan looks like it comes from one direction.

"City Block level+, likely Multi-City Block level" We are using 8-B.
Giyu is literally surrounded of shockwaves though? And when he used lull, a form that negates attacks from his front direction, he still got hit, which means the shockwaves that hit him came from other directions meaning the shockwaves are omni-directional
 
Alright, Akaza hitting ixa with his shockwave than ixa hitting him with a sword
More like Ixa hitting him with Light + Electromagnetic waves + Soundwaves + Ixa Caliber (which is a sword and a gun)
Wdym you guys are using 8-B? Akaza has one key he doesn't have two, the 8-A is for all his versions he doesn't have a different version and idek if you can restrict AP. The likely is there because its an upscale, it doesn't mean akaza's AP changes
Then we don't use the likely 8-A part of it.
Giyu is literally surrounded of shockwaves though? And when he used lull, a form that negates attacks from his front direction, he still got hit, which means the shockwaves that hit him came from other directions meaning the shockwaves are omni-directional
And how is he going to do this when he gets hit with everything listed above?
 
More like Ixa hitting him with Light + Electromagnetic waves + Soundwaves + Ixa Caliber (which is a sword and a gun)

Then we don't use the likely 8-A part of it.

And how is he going to do this when he gets hit with everything listed above?
Shockwaves are a starting move, You guys said Ixa starts with shooting, Akaza throws out a hundred shockwaves, damages ixa's organs and vital points which will **** him over, and then akaza dominates

Can you even do that? 8-A is literally just there cause its an upscale

he does those before he gets hit?
 
Wdym you guys are using 8-B? Akaza has one key he doesn't have two, the 8-A is for all his versions he doesn't have a different version and idek if you can restrict AP. The likely is there because its an upscale, it doesn't mean akaza's AP changes
In this fight, the Leginis has two very different AP ratings yet the fight calls for only Tier 8 Legonis without even touching planet level
 
In this fight, the Leginis has two very different AP ratings yet the fight calls for only Tier 8 Legonis without even touching planet level
Because the profile states that the planet level rating is with one attack, This is not the case here because everything akaza does is 8-A unless you wanna restrict him of anything he can do

Edit: I misread
 
Alright, we use akaza's 8-B end, His shockwave attacks the vital points so Ixa is still getting his organs destroyed
 
Shockwaves are a starting move, You guys said Ixa starts with shooting, Akaza throws out a hundred shockwaves, damages ixa's organs and vital points which will **** him over, and then akaza dominates

Can you even do that? 8-A is literally just there cause its an upscale

he does those before he gets hit?
And those bullets will be damaging the soul

Yes, yes you can

Soul, electromagnetic and light abilities are very quick and easy to pull off. The only one that Ixa needs bring out his the Garuru Saber which takes less than 5 seconds to do so
 
Shockwaves are a starting move, You guys said Ixa starts with shooting, Akaza throws out a hundred shockwaves, damages ixa's organs and vital points which will **** him over, and then akaza dominates
Where does it say a hundred? Ixa can shoot one bullet that spreads into 120 shots. He has 20 bullets before he reloads.
Can you even do that? 8-A is literally just there cause its an upscale

he does those before he gets hit?
Light hits first because its light. Staggers Akaza for a moment. That moment is enough for Ixa to do all those attacks. he can use the gun with one hand, he can use Soundwaves with the other and the electromagnetic waves comes from his body.

Also, what Berries said.
 
Can you show me where it says his shockwaves attack internal organs. It's not listed in the profile
In their fight with rengoku, Akaza said rengoku's organs are beyond repair despite akaza not attacking him in the organs, and when akaza attacked rengoku with a shockwave rengoku's clothes wasn't even touched but he was in pain
 
Where does it say a hundred? Ixa can shoot one bullet that spreads into 120 shots. He has 20 bullets before he reloads.

Light hits first because its light. Staggers Akaza for a moment. That moment is enough for Ixa to do all those attacks. he can use the gun with one hand, he can use Soundwaves with the other and the electromagnetic waves comes from his body.

Also, what Berries said.
Profile says so plus the sheer numbers are overwhelming anyway


Now where is light speed in ixa's profile, even his strongest key is sub rel wdym. Akaza throws a hundred shockwave, even a single one of those hitting is enough for akaza to win. Plus why would he spread his shots? Doesn't matter since bullets are way smaller than akaza's shockwaves.
 
And those bullets will be damaging the soul

Yes, yes you can

Soul, electromagnetic and light abilities are very quick and easy to pull off. The only one that Ixa needs bring out his the Garuru Saber which takes less than 5 seconds to do so
Scan?

And so are akaza's shockwaves, and can you tell me if he starts with those? cause magi told me he starts with shooting, also less than 5 seconds is all that akaza needs to hit him with at the very least one shockwave
 
Profile says so plus the sheer numbers are overwhelming anyway


Now where is light speed in ixa's profile, even his strongest key is sub rel wdym. Akaza throws a hundred shockwave, even a single one of those hitting is enough for akaza to win. Plus why would he spread his shots? Doesn't matter since bullets are way smaller than akaza's shockwaves.
Its Light Manip. and you ignored the electromagnetic waves + soundwaves + the staggering.
 
Why wouldn't he? He started with Light Manip many times in the show. He can just do the rest when he's staggered.
Magi told me in the previous thread that he starts with shooting and neither you nor berry contested it, Plus light would like stagger him for a second and thats it, plus the panic it causes can just make akaza jump back and then once he realizes nothing special happened he fights like normal, and can you show me fights where did start with it?
 
Scan?

And so are akaza's shockwaves, and can you tell me if he starts with those? cause magi told me he starts with shooting, also less than 5 seconds is all that akaza needs to hit him with at the very least one shockwave
We've already talked about this man......

He'll start shooting and the use the Sol Flasher. He can still fight even while summoning the saber
 
We've already talked about this man......

He'll start shooting and the use the Sol Flasher. He can still fight even while summoning the saber
I don't remember

And akaza can dodge, plus Like I said he can keep range, sol flasher does nothing to him as he can fight without his head which would make him both blind and deaf, plus like dudes you guys are effectively saying not one out of the hundred shockwaves akaza can throw at him and can spam too. and I still need scans of all of his attacks having soul hax
 
I don't remember

And akaza can dodge, plus Like I said he can keep range, sol flasher does nothing to him as he can fight without his head which would make him both blind and deaf, plus like dudes you guys are effectively saying not one out of the hundred shockwaves akaza can throw at him and can spam too. and I still need scans of all of his attacks having soul hax
Magi told me in the previous thread that he starts with shooting and neither you nor berry contested it, Plus light would like stagger him for a second and thats it, plus the panic it causes can just make akaza jump back and then once he realizes nothing special happened he fights like normal, and can you show me fights where did start with it?
Because Ixa have started with so many things over the course of the show. Bro, where's the hundred shockwaves scan?

You also act like Ixa can't spam either.

The soul destruction is literally in the profile. His attacks can kill Fangire who can regenerate with their souls. When Ixa kills a Fangire, it permanently dies.
 
I don't remember

And akaza can dodge, plus Like I said he can keep range, sol flasher does nothing to him as he can fight without his head which would make him both blind and deaf, plus like dudes you guys are effectively saying not one out of the hundred shockwaves akaza can throw at him and can spam too. and I still need scans of all of his attacks having soul hax
Any of Ixa's attack can attack the soul because they don't come from his finishers just the weapons. And with the fact that each bullet multiplies by 120x, thats over two thousand rapid fire bullets that attack the soul

Ixa outranges Akaza. Ixa could still counter some shockwaves with the Garulu Saber, and can reflect them.
 
Because Ixa have started with so many things over the course of the show. Bro, where's the hundred shockwaves scan?

You also act like Ixa can't spam either.

The soul destruction is literally in the profile. His attacks can kill Fangire who can regenerate with their souls. When Ixa kills a Fangire, it permanently dies.
I just provided earlier, The numbers will overwhelm ixa. Also if whatever he starts with is variable then it'll be impossible to know whats more likely because ixa wins if he starts with specific techniques but he also loses if he starts with others

Never did, Plus does he spam in character?

I never said he doesn't have soul destruction where did you get that from? what I said was that I wanted proof if its for all of his attacks.
Any of Ixa's attack can attack the soul because they don't come from his finishers just the weapons. And with the fact that each bullet multiplies by 120x, thats over two thousand rapid fire bullets that attack the soul

Ixa outranges Akaza. Ixa could still counter some shockwaves with the Garulu Saber, and can reflect them.
Vel literally told me it came from his finishers, and Like I said I need proof like scans or clips

Yeah with like 3 attacks, And also some ain't gonna cut it when one can crush his organs beyond repair and break his ribs, or just attack his vital points to paralyze him for a bit then barrage him
 
I just provided earlier, The numbers will overwhelm ixa. Also if whatever he starts with is variable then it'll be impossible to know whats more likely because ixa wins if he starts with specific techniques but he also loses if he starts with others
And the thousands of bullets + Light + Electromagnetic + Soundwaves won't overwhelm Akaza?
Never did, Plus does he spam in character?
Yes, He spams bullets and abilities.
I never said he doesn't have soul destruction where did you get that from? what I said was that I wanted proof if its for all of his attacks.
Vel literally told me it came from his finishers, and Like I said I need proof like scans or clips
The finishers come from his weapons so why can't it work.
Yeah with like 3 attacks, And also some ain't gonna cut it when one can crush his organs beyond repair and break his ribs, or just attack his vital points to paralyze him for a bit then barrage him
Soundwaves are constant. That means it keeps on going. Also, he gets outranged. Reminder that Ixa can amp to 100 tons while Akaza scales below.
 
Soundwaves are constant. That means it keeps on going. Also, he gets outranged. Reminder that Ixa can amp to 100 tons while Akaza scales below.
People can have internal damage from strong enough attack. You don't need to target a person's insides for them to have internal damage, just a strong enough attack. Ixa dura is stronger than Akaza's AP
 
Magi told me in the previous thread that he starts with shooting and neither you nor berry contested it, Plus light would like stagger him for a second and thats it, plus the panic it causes can just make akaza jump back and then once he realizes nothing special happened he fights like normal, and can you show me fights where did start with it?
He usually start with that. But he will uses whatever that help him to finish the fights fast. So it's no surprise if he will go out of the pattern and start spamming things as long as it's help him win fast.

And also some ain't gonna cut it when one can crush his organs beyond repair and break his ribs, or just attack his vital points to paralyze him for a bit then barrage him
That is assuming his AP is much higher. And that aint gonna happen if Azaka scale to 69 tons while Ixa can amp himself to 100 tons
 
And the thousands of bullets + Light + Electromagnetic + Soundwaves won't overwhelm Akaza?

Yes, He spams bullets and abilities.


The finishers come from his weapons so why can't it work.

Soundwaves are constant. That means it keeps on going. Also, he gets outranged. Reminder that Ixa can amp to 100 tons while Akaza scales below.
Bullets are small as hell so he can dodge those, Blinding akaza won't do anything as I've explained countless of times, Electromagentic and soundwaves are dodgable or akaza can counter with his shockwaves

Why are they treated as a different attack if his finisher is just the same thing as any other attack.

And soundwaves have range meaning it won't trap akaza anywhere, it'll knock him back, akaza gets up and continues fighting. By 3 attacks? yeah. Also the AP gap is so small it barely matter, Akaza scales way way way way above 69.2 tons. whereas ixa's absolute highest ball is 100 tons, and his lowest is 47. and why are we using his highest end again?
People can have internal damage from strong enough attack. You don't need to target a person's insides for them to have internal damage, just a strong enough attack. Ixa dura is stronger than Akaza's AP
except there literally no signs of external damage when the shockwave hits. his clothes were literally unharmed
He usually start with that. But he will uses whatever that help him to finish the fights fast. So it's no surprise if he will go out of the pattern and start spamming things as long as it's help him win fast.


That is assuming his AP is much higher. And that aint gonna happen if Azaka scale to 69 tons while Ixa can amp himself to 100 tons
And how would he know what can get him the win and what cant. he can analyze akaza's weakness but he can't know what he's gonna do next. and saying he starts with a specific pattern that will let him win is BS since he has a shitton of stuff in his arsenal.


Akaza literally didn't hit rengoku physical with the shockwave only his internal organs, and this is supported by tanjiro saying that akaza's shockwaves targets his vital points. also wdym he can amp, Ixa's reasoning for his tier is because of a vague statement that says he's stronger by dozens of times, which is vague as hell as it can mean 12x or 24x or a much higher number, So his AP isn't 100 unless we want it to be, but it doesn't matter as akaza targets the internal organs which literally doesn't care about dura
 
There's thousands of them, not only that, each bullet has the same properties as the blade, which sucks the life force out of the target. Akaza will become easier and easier to hit as the fight goes on.

The different finishers come from different weapons.

It multiplies Ixa's strength by several (At least 3 sets) tens of times (at least 20x).

You can break bones without ripping away at your clothes. You can break someone's rib cage and have their bones penetrate their organs. Ixa has also continued on fighting even after being smacked around by Dogga Form Kiva, who was 10x stronger than Ixa. Being put in a lot of pain isn't new to him.

He goes for what he can. Once he realizes that Sol Flasher doesn't work and his electromagnetic field could be avoided, the Garur Saber is up, which I rewatched the fight to see only takes 2 seconds to summon, likely less due to it wanting to go to a different user.
 
There's thousands of them, not only that, each bullet has the same properties as the blade, which sucks the life force out of the target. Akaza will become easier and easier to hit as the fight goes on.

The different finishers come from different weapons.

It multiplies Ixa's strength by several (At least 3 sets) tens of times (at least 20x).

You can break bones without ripping away at your clothes. You can break someone's rib cage and have their bones penetrate their organs.

He goes for what he can. Once he realizes that Sol Flasher doesn't work and his electromagnetic field could be avoided, the Garur Saber is up, which I rewatched the fight to see only takes 2 seconds to summon, likely less due to it wanting to go to a different user.
No there ain't, Each bullet can divide into 120 pieces and akaza deflects those 120, and then he shoots another and the same repeats over and over, and those small bullets got soul hax too?

Not what I meant

Dozen means 12 wdym? and even if it was 20 without the multipler he's like 1.57 tons, so at the lowest ball he's 20 tons.

You're telling me his rib can be broken without a single scratch on his clothes? Yeah no, and plusakaza destroy the rib cage which would then damage the organs is far off since he could've just attacked the organs and the ribs separately.


2 seconds is enough, these dudes are moving at subsonic speeds, some shockwaves are making it. and the garuru saber won't negate everything akaza has, Also before he even realizes he ahs to use the garuru saber he'll get hit as well, first he'll have to use sol flash, have it not work, and then use his electromagnetic field and realize that doesn't work all while akaza spams him with shockwaves, by the time he realizes he needs to use the garuru saber,his organs will be crushed.
 
Right so, can you show me him deflecting attacks. And it’s not, shoots one bullets, waits, then shoots another bullet. It’s an uzi which he could just hold down the trigger. And yeah, they share the same properties as the sword

It’s several tens of times, bare minimum 30x, I usually go with 40-50x

People can bones without their clothes ripping. And we could honestly say it’s PIS with their clothes not ripping

In the fight with Rengoku, he tries to go in with CQC with his punches being accompanied with shockwaves
 
Right so, can you show me him deflecting attacks. And it’s not, shoots one bullets, waits, then shoots another bullet. It’s an uzi which he could just hold down the trigger. And yeah, they share the same properties as the sword

It’s several tens of times, bare minimum 30x, I usually go with 40-50x

People can bones without their clothes ripping. And we could honestly say it’s PIS with their clothes not ripping

In the fight with Rengoku, he tries to go in with CQC with his punches being accompanied with shockwaves
wdym? Are you gonna say cause he never deflecting attacks he can't do it, he just wont stand there, he'll either deflect or dodge, both are very solid options since the bullets are small as hell. When was it ever destroyed the soul of even a fangire? Cause same property doesn't mean same potency


even the highest end wont stop akaza's shockwaves.

I'm not talking about the clothes not being ripped , They were not scratched At all.

Cause rengoku is weaker than him, if he finds out ixa is stronger he's keeping range. And akaza can tell how strong someone is by looking at them.
 
We are also using things in the profiles and durability negation is not one of them.
Alright, its not on his profile. The shockwaves are still deadly since they target your vital points, are spammable and comes from all directions so ixa can't deflect all of them at once, and all of them are not much weaker than he is. The point that the shockwaves are deadly still stands.
 
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