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As stated on the RWBY discussion thread. I think that with all the recent downgrades it actually makes much more sense for Cinder Fall and Amber to be 8B for the following reasons.
1. Amber loses the Cinder and her group, previously considered PIS because of the tiers they once were, but now is consistent with....
2. We know Maidens are only High 7C with their powers active. They are 8B when not so. Which makes much more sense as to why Amber took severe damage from Cinder in the fight when her powers were off.
3. Cinder Fall should at least be comparable with the rest of Salem's faction. And before someone brings up Leongeart, unlike him Cinder is more shown to be a fighter on the front lines then the shriveling coward Lionheart was.
For these reasons, and for the better consistency. Amber gets an 8B key. While Cinder's base goes to 8B
1. Amber loses the Cinder and her group, previously considered PIS because of the tiers they once were, but now is consistent with....
2. We know Maidens are only High 7C with their powers active. They are 8B when not so. Which makes much more sense as to why Amber took severe damage from Cinder in the fight when her powers were off.
3. Cinder Fall should at least be comparable with the rest of Salem's faction. And before someone brings up Leongeart, unlike him Cinder is more shown to be a fighter on the front lines then the shriveling coward Lionheart was.
For these reasons, and for the better consistency. Amber gets an 8B key. While Cinder's base goes to 8B